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Topic: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition

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847badgerfan

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #574 on: December 05, 2023, 11:24:24 AM »
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #575 on: December 05, 2023, 11:26:39 AM »
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #576 on: December 05, 2023, 11:46:25 AM »
Here, this should help settle things down:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf5a0Bl6uJ0&t=267s

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #577 on: December 05, 2023, 11:49:26 AM »
I don't disagree with anything you're saying,  but the D1-A/FBS college football postseason has ALWAYS been a big effing beauty pageant.  This year is no different than all the others.
Yes, which is why even in the CFP era we still call it the MNC, not the NC. 

The idea of a playoff is to bring objectivity into the equation. But any time you don't have an objective path to the playoff--and I'd argue that scheduling two SEC teams OOC, running the table to go 13-0 and win a P5 conference championship is about as objective as we all thought possible--that there is no objective national champion. 

So it's still the MNC.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #578 on: December 05, 2023, 11:58:19 AM »
You could also compare just this year's TV ratings for a common opponent. 





So clearly Alabama is the bigger draw.

Oh, wait... :)


Glad so many were able to tune in for our humiliation. 

I've already noted I don't care about the FSU/Bama arguments.  The committee was going to be both right and wrong either way.  I find the notions that FSU would definitely lose in the playoffs odd.  Maybe they would.  Suppose their #2 QB gets a month to practice with the 1's and focus in on whatever team they're playing...maybe it's still a bad offense.  Maybe.  But can their defense drag any of the playoff teams down in the mud and force them into a brawl?  There's one team this year that horsewhipped our OL and blanked us for an entire half.  And it wasn't Bama, lolz.....we made their defense look average.  FSU might well lose to Michigan, Washington, or Texas.  Or they might not.  Cincy, with his "FSU would lose 85% of the time" can give me his crystal ball, I need it for some stuff, meanwhile I'll refer him to all his comments picking games on the SEC board where he says he's not good at picking games.  

That said, I don't want to be mistaken as saying putting Alabama over FSU is wrong.  Can't stress it enough.  Either team was going to be right and wrong.  If UGA had won, the controversy would be between FSU and Texas, and it would be the same thing.  All the same arguments would apply.  I wouldn't die on the hill of keeping Texas out in favor of a Travis-less FSU, and neither would I gripe about Texas getting in over FSU.  It is what it is.  Sucks for FSU.  Would've sucked for Bama if it had gone differently.  

I'm 100% okay with things sucking for Bama.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #579 on: December 05, 2023, 11:59:25 AM »
Here, this should help settle things down:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf5a0Bl6uJ0&t=267s
LoL, the Court Reporter was a hilarious touch.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #580 on: December 05, 2023, 11:59:44 AM »
Yes, which is why even in the CFP era we still call it the MNC, not the NC.

The idea of a playoff is to bring objectivity into the equation. But any time you don't have an objective path to the playoff--and I'd argue that scheduling two SEC teams OOC, running the table to go 13-0 and win a P5 conference championship is about as objective as we all thought possible--that there is no objective national champion.

So it's still the MNC.


This was all detailed brilliantly in my earlier post, but I guess everybody TLDR'd it.  

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #581 on: December 05, 2023, 12:06:51 PM »

This was all detailed brilliantly in my earlier post, but I guess everybody TLDR'd it. 
The problem with your posts here is they are so brilliantly detailed, nobody else here can comprehend them in their magnifisense.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #582 on: December 05, 2023, 12:08:15 PM »

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #583 on: December 05, 2023, 12:08:45 PM »
The Big Ten has such high academic standards, I figured everyone here could handle it.  In the future I'll write with more of a Bama/Ole Miss audience in mind.  

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #584 on: December 05, 2023, 12:09:51 PM »
LoL, the Court Reporter was a hilarious touch.
My favorite bit was Texas not having any idea that the CFP existed and had been around for ten years.  It's funny, because it's true.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #585 on: December 05, 2023, 12:16:21 PM »
I don't know. I'm not a player so obviously can't speak from that perspective, but as a fan I'd rather see my favorite team take on all comers at their full strength, even if that diminishes the odds of a win. 
this. I'd rather Michigan play Bama than FSU, but FSU earned the right to punch their ticket to the dance imo. 

Going 13-0 with arguably the toughest OOC schedule of any team and winning a P5 conference unblemished is no easy feat. Especially after losing the starting QB. FSU isn't some MAC or Mountain West school. They are loaded with 4*'s and 5*'s and future NFL draft picks just like the 4 teams in the dance.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #586 on: December 05, 2023, 12:16:57 PM »
The Big Ten has such high academic standards, I figured everyone here could handle it.  In the future I'll write with more of a Bama/Ole Miss audience in mind. 
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #587 on: December 05, 2023, 12:18:13 PM »
this. I'd rather Michigan play Bama than FSU, but FSU earned the right to punch their ticket to the dance imo.

they earned it and the SEC said, not at our expense!
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