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Cincydawg

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« Reply #5432 on: Today at 01:02:30 PM »
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« Reply #5433 on: Today at 01:05:37 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on Today at 12:11:38 PM
Where are you gonna charge it? You putting one in, at a home that you don't own?
Badge, you should know me well enough by now that I research things extensively before making large decisions so that I'll know in advance what I'm getting myself into...

There are plenty of non-permanent chargers that I won't have to do any complicated installations with. 

I actually think that with my driving habits, I am probably just fine with L1 charging. Which simplifies things greatly based on where the accessible outlets are located. 


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« Reply #5434 on: Today at 01:09:00 PM »
L1 charging of course is .......  SLOW.  But you'd get maybe 25 miles overnight.  If you don't drive much, maybe a plugin hybrid would be adequate depending.

Are you thinking used?

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« Reply #5435 on: Today at 01:29:10 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 01:09:00 PM
L1 charging of course is .......  SLOW.  But you'd get maybe 25 miles overnight.  If you don't drive much, maybe a plugin hybrid would be adequate depending.

Are you thinking used?
I don't drive a lot of miles. I'm only going to the office now 3 days/week (~25 mi r/t). Weekly Costco run is another 12 miles r/t. 

There will be more driving when I've got the kids, especially once the oldest goes off to college, as he drives them to/from school most days.

And I'll still have the Jeep if/when I need it. But I think I'll be driving the Jeep when I want to, not that I'll actually "need" to. 

Definitely used. I generally want someone else to take the depreciation hit on a vehicle, not me. And that's especially true on EVs because the way the market has gone on them, the early depreciation is pretty significant. 

A University of Michigan study released last month actually said that used EVs offer a lower total cost of ownership than used ICEV/Hybrid/PHEV: https://news.umich.edu/used-evs-currently-offer-car-buyers-lowest-lifetime-cost-of-ownership/
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« Reply #5436 on: Today at 01:34:53 PM »
Seems to me like a good option.
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« Reply #5437 on: Today at 01:37:59 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on Today at 01:05:37 PM
Badge, you should know me well enough by now that I research things extensively before making large decisions so that I'll know in advance what I'm getting myself into...

There are plenty of non-permanent chargers that I won't have to do any complicated installations with.

I actually think that with my driving habits, I am probably just fine with L1 charging. Which simplifies things greatly based on where the accessible outlets are located.



I figured you had a plan. Just curious as to what it is/was.
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« Reply #5438 on: Today at 02:31:42 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on Today at 01:37:59 PM
I figured you had a plan. Just curious as to what it is/was.
Yep. First plan is a simple L1 charger. Available on Amazon for $100-150. 

If I determine that isn't viable, I'd opt for splitter circuit for the electric dryer which runs on 240. That plus an L2 charger would maybe be in the $250-400 range all in, and can be easily removed when I move out. They make them such that it seamlessly cuts power to the charger if anyone tries to run the dryer. Only downside to that is you have a max 25 foot charging cable which won't reach to the driveway. I park the Jeep in the garage and it perfectly fits between my rack of dumbbells and the garage door. Charging inside the garage L2 would mean I'd need to move the dumbbell rack as the Mach-E is about 2 feet longer than the Jeep. The garage is pretty full so finding another place for the dumbbells would be inconvenient. And then I'd have to pull the Jeep out to charge in the garage. 

I did find a charger that can go L1/L2 and has a 40' cord
a charger that can go L1/L2 and has a 40' cord... Which might also be an option to charge in the driveway off the dryer 240V circuit. It's slower at a max of 16A (probably how they can get around the 25' cord limit), so will only charge a max of 3.8 kW. But that would be more than enough for my typical needs... 

Slower charging is [as I understand it] gentler on the battery anyway. At least compared to DC fast charging. Not that the 11 kW you can get from a dedicated L2 home charger has been shown to be a problem of course... 
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« Reply #5439 on: Today at 02:35:00 PM »
a charger that can go L1/L2 and has a 40' cord.

great solution

although, I'd park the new vehicle in the garage
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« Reply #5440 on: Today at 02:38:47 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on Today at 02:35:00 PM
although, I'd park the new vehicle in the garage
I hear you, but...

  • Either the new vehicle or my wife's RX350 is longer than the Jeep, and as mentioned space in the garage is at a premium. If we were going to put a car in because it's "a nicer car", it would be hers. That way if it's raining or something she doesn't have to go out in it to get in her car. I'm a gentleman, after all. But we barely have room for the Jeep in there as it is. 
  • The Jeep gets garage treatment because i usually keep the soft top down [or removed completely], and I don't want to park it outside overnight with the top down. 


So, it'll have to live outdoors. 
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« Reply #5441 on: Today at 02:53:46 PM »
makes sense - in this climate the wife's vehicle would be in the garage - dumbbells would move
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« Reply #5442 on: Today at 05:27:31 PM »
Man in our house the kids' Mustangs now live in the garage, and my wife's Jeep has been relegated to the driveway.  My pickup has never fit all that great into the garage, although I used to be able to wedge it in when worries of a hail storm came up.  But for the most part it's always been in the driveway regardless, which is fine.

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