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Gigem

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« Reply #4228 on: June 10, 2025, 06:11:43 PM »

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« Reply #4229 on: June 10, 2025, 06:54:31 PM »
Man, Dallas Cowboys/Aggie fans must be the most miserable folks on the planet.

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« Reply #4230 on: June 10, 2025, 07:04:00 PM »

Accurate


https://twitter.com/frontporchu/status/1932425961514975706?s=61
For a second it seemed to me that there was one missing...

...and then I remembered that at least Purdue's good at basketball. So we've got that going for us. Which is nice.

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« Reply #4231 on: June 10, 2025, 07:21:34 PM »
Why are some schools good at basketball and really bad at football?  And vice versa?

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« Reply #4232 on: June 10, 2025, 07:34:08 PM »


Um, no idea on what this is based.

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« Reply #4233 on: June 10, 2025, 07:36:55 PM »
Why are some schools good at basketball and really bad at football?  And vice versa?
I don't know about a general rule for this... But for the state of Indiana, I think there are a few reasons:

  • Indiana in general is a basketball-obsessed state. Despite living there for my time at Purdue, I've never really understood why. But nevertheless, it is. So the fact that Purdue and IU are both VERY good basketball programs historically isn't all that surprising in a state like Indiana.
  • Indiana has Notre Dame, a traditional historically powerful football program, in state. It also has Michigan and Ohio State, traditionally powerful football programs, in very close proximity. From a recruiting perspective, this means that Indiana--a state that isn't known for producing a tremendous amount of football talent in general--has nearby schools that can EASILY recruit Indiana's best football players over Purdue and IU. 

More generally, I also think that basketball is less resource-intensive--due to smaller teams--than football. This has two effects. First, it means that you can build a strong basketball team with only having to carry 13 kids on scholarship--and going forward on NIL and on salary. That's a lot different than 85. Second, it means that with fewer kids on a team, each individual kid has a MUCH larger effect on the team performance than football. One superstar player can change the trajectory of an entire college basketball team if all the other players are merely "good". One superstar quarterback, OTOH, can't do much if he only has an OL or RB or receivers--or a defense--that is merely "good". Unless that superstar quarterback is Lamar Jackson, but even then Louisville put up 8-5, 9-4, and 8-5 seasons when he was there... Against ACC competition. 

If I had to come up with a general rule, it's that football is just too big and too much that there are only going to be a very small number of "helmet" teams. Whereas basketball is much smaller and so you have a bit of a larger number of "jersey" teams... And thus you're going to have teams where they do it in basketball, but for structural reasons they can't cross that bridge in football. 


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« Reply #4234 on: June 10, 2025, 07:40:07 PM »
Good explanation as to why some schools are much better at bball than CFB.  The reverse?

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« Reply #4235 on: June 10, 2025, 08:52:42 PM »
Man, Dallas Cowboys/Aggie fans must be the most miserable folks on the planet.
Especially if they like the Mavericks too. 

Three of the top four in Texas. 

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« Reply #4236 on: June 10, 2025, 09:26:47 PM »
@ #38 - Vikings are WAY too low!
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« Reply #4237 on: June 10, 2025, 09:50:05 PM »
How do you rank...



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« Reply #4238 on: June 10, 2025, 09:55:18 PM »
I'd have Chicken Pizza higher, especially with bacon added on it.
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« Reply #4239 on: June 10, 2025, 10:01:30 PM »
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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« Reply #4240 on: June 10, 2025, 10:39:50 PM »
Man, Dallas Cowboys/Aggie fans must be the most miserable folks on the planet.
You have no idea. Not a Cowboys fan BTW. 

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« Reply #4241 on: June 10, 2025, 10:57:14 PM »
College Football's Top 25 Plays Since 2000 List: 


ESPN's list of the top 25 plays in college football since 2000.

"Some decided national titles, some provided all-time rivalry bragging rights, and all of them are stuck in our memories forever. This sport puts us through a good amount of nonsense sometimes, but the games, and the greatest plays, make everything worth it."

The play for Nebraska is the famous Black 41 Flash Reverse Pass from the 2001 game against Oklahoma. Not only is this one of the top plays of the 2000s, but it is one of the most famous plays in Cornhusker history.

In a battle of the No. 1 and No. 2 teams in the BCS rankings, Nebraska led Oklahoma 13-10. With 6:29 to go in the game and the ball on the NU 37-yard line, Eric Crouch took the snap and handed to Thunder Collins, who then pitched the ball to Mike Stuntz for the reverse.

With the Oklahoma safeties crashing, Stuntz threw the ball downfield to an open Crouch, who scored the 63-yard touchdown to put Nebraska up 20-10. That would be the final score, and keep Nebraska in contention for the national title.

Crouch would go on to with the Heisman trophy, the third winner in program history. The Huskers eventually made the BCS National Championship game, falling to Miami.

Below is the list of plays to make the ranking.

Kick-Six (Auburn vs. Alabama, 2013)
Boise State Trickeration (2007 Fiesta Bowl)
InVincibowl (2006 Rose Bowl/National Championship)
Tua's Toss (2018 National Championship)
"The Horror" (Appalachian State at Michigan, 2007)
"Six" (Texas Tech vs. Texas, 2008)
Prayer at Jordan-Hare (Auburn vs. Georgia, 2013)
Surrender Cobra (Michigan vs. Michigan State, 2015)
Superman (Oklahoma vs. Texas, 2001)
Champions* (2003 National Championship)
Clowney "Car Wreck" (2013 Outback Bowl)
"Oh My Gracious!" (Alabama vs. Texas A&M, 2012)
"Orange Crush" (2017 National Championship)
Bush Push (Notre Dame vs. USC, 2005)
Reggie in the Fog (Oregon State vs. USC, 2004)
Jump Pass (Florida vs. LSU, 2006)
Bluegrass Miracle (Kentucky vs. LSU, 2002)
Eight Laterals of Chaos (Duke vs. Miami, 2015)
Reed Wrestles It Away (Boston College vs. Miami, 2001)
"Gravedigger" (Auburn vs. Alabama, 2023)
Black 41 Flash Reverse (Nebraska vs. Oklahoma, 2001)
61-Second Spectacle (Millsap vs. Trinity, 2007)
Nonsense Masterpiece (Ole Miss vs. Arkansas, 2015)
Cam Can (Auburn vs. LSU, 2010)
Lamar Leap (Syracuse vs. Louisville, 2016)
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

 

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