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« Reply #3920 on: May 08, 2025, 09:50:03 AM »
I wouuldn't conflate "research spending" with "academic excellence" myself, but whatever, it is a quantifiable thing.


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« Reply #3921 on: May 08, 2025, 10:02:38 AM »
I still wouldn't conflate the two.  I know of some high reputation colleges out there that are small and are only undergraduate in focus.  

I would agree that the high research universities also tend to be good academically, especially in STEM fields.  I don't know of an exception.  It's like the AAU thing, it mostly relates to grad schools.


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« Reply #3922 on: May 08, 2025, 10:12:58 AM »
ShanghaiRanking's Academic Ranking of World Universities
ShanghaiRanking's Academic Ranking of World Universities
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« Reply #3923 on: May 08, 2025, 10:43:39 AM »
As I often note, we humans like rankings, I guess it saves us from having to do our "own research" (which often is silly as well).  I think a lot of it matters when one lists a school on one's resume, it either gets your foot in the door, or closes the door, or cracks the door open a bit.

Can a person get a good education at say Northwestern State?  Of course.  Or a bad one at Stanford?  Of course.  But the latter will open a lot of doors for you because more Stanford grads will be elite than grads from NWSU.

Does it matter if Stanford happened to have a fairly low research expenditure?  Not that much, in my opinion.  Some of the most renowned professors are poor teachers and vice versa.


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« Reply #3924 on: Today at 08:18:32 AM »

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« Reply #3925 on: Today at 08:19:52 AM »
I think Beamer has done a solid job with what he has.  I had been high on Stoops, but maybe not so much now.  All this just reflects winning, not coaching, I think, except where they overlap.

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« Reply #3926 on: Today at 11:10:12 AM »
I stopped reading after this.

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« Reply #3927 on: Today at 11:34:29 AM »
The problem with all rankings, I find, is who do you move up?

It's easier to move folks down.


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« Reply #3928 on: Today at 11:40:31 AM »
I have a problem with ranking the same guy twice. You can't be 14, and also be 10.
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« Reply #3929 on: Today at 12:07:11 PM »
I missed that.  Maybe Franklin is THAT good?

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« Reply #3930 on: Today at 12:13:39 PM »
I have a problem with ranking the same guy twice. You can't be 14, and also be 10.
I thought you'd approve of a certain coach sliding all the way down to #46. 

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« Reply #3931 on: Today at 12:16:56 PM »
It's amusing to me that Day, who was on the verge of being canned, if #4.  I'm not saying he doesn't merit whatever, it's just amusing. 

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« Reply #3932 on: Today at 12:20:30 PM »
I thought you'd approve of a certain coach sliding all the way down to #46.

Didn't make it past 14.
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