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Gigem

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« Reply #3850 on: April 30, 2025, 01:19:35 PM »
Yup, as an outsider but with close ties to some Ags, this was my impression as well.

And I honestly thought Franchione was going to do well at TAMU.  Hindsight's 20/20 of course, but at the time that looked like a good hire, at least in my opinion.
Fran came so close to having a good season in 2004 and 2006.  In 2006 we had a chance to win the Big 12 but ended up letting one slip to OU that we should have won and lost a couple of other games we should have won.  Memorably, that was the year we beat UT in Austin (first time winning in Austin for my fandom) 12-7, knocking them out of the Big 12 CCG. 

I just realized I completely forgot about Mike Sherman in my "last 5 coaches" ranking.  Slocum was 6 coaches ago !

The problem with Fran is that when things went bad, they went 77-0 bad.  Like France Vs Germany 1940 bad.  I wish somebody would write a "behind the program" book about that era of Aggie football  now that we're 20 years past.  I would love to know WTH happened to be so bad.  

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« Reply #3851 on: April 30, 2025, 03:16:02 PM »
And I honestly thought Franchione was going to do well at TAMU.  Hindsight's 20/20 of course, but at the time that looked like a good hire, at least in my opinion.
Shit I thought Jimbo was going to be a home run for A&M. He won a natty under Saban at LSU as the OC and put out bunch of nfl draft picks on offense then went and revived Florida State from the dead and won a natty and put out a bunch of nfl draft picks on offense, then he goes to A&M and….womp womp womp. 

Just goes to show no such thing as sure things in coaching hires. Outside of Nick Saban & Jim Harbaugh I can’t think of a single coach that was a smashing success at multiple spots pretty much everywhere they went. 

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« Reply #3852 on: April 30, 2025, 03:17:49 PM »
Just goes to show no such thing as sure things in coaching hires. Outside of Nick Saban & Jim Harbaugh I can’t think of a single coach that was a smashing success at multiple spots pretty much everywhere they went.
Steve Spurrier.  John Heisman did pretty well too.  Urban Meyer would make the list I think, perhaps even at the top of it.


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« Reply #3853 on: April 30, 2025, 03:20:59 PM »
Steve Spurrier.  John Heisman did pretty well too.  Urban Meyer would make the list I think, perhaps even at the top of it.
Spurrier and Urbz were absolute dumpster fires in the nfl. 

Nick had elite defenses in the nfl and was at least .500 and would’ve been highly successful had Miami ownership let him sign Drew Brees instead of Daunte fucking Culpepper who was washed up with a Swiss cheese knee at that point in time. 

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« Reply #3854 on: April 30, 2025, 03:26:39 PM »
I was thinking college only.  

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« Reply #3855 on: April 30, 2025, 04:02:06 PM »
Pete Carroll.

I mean, some of his Seahawks teams weren't stellar, but they won a SB and should've won another if they'd have just RTDB. 

Little dispute, I'd think, that he was one of the best while at USC.  

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« Reply #3856 on: April 30, 2025, 04:39:17 PM »
I don't give a rat's ass about NFL coaching success so I definitely count Urbie into that mix.

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« Reply #3857 on: April 30, 2025, 04:45:27 PM »
Shit I thought Jimbo was going to be a home run for A&M. He won a natty under Saban at LSU as the OC and put out bunch of nfl draft picks on offense then went and revived Florida State from the dead and won a natty and put out a bunch of nfl draft picks on offense, then he goes to A&M and….womp womp womp.

Just goes to show no such thing as sure things in coaching hires. Outside of Nick Saban & Jim Harbaugh I can’t think of a single coach that was a smashing success at multiple spots pretty much everywhere they went.
Jimbo was close to being "on fire" his first two years at A&M.  Close losses to UGA and Clemson when they were elite, pretty good overall (8-5 2019 and 9-4 2018) including our first SEC victory over LSU (74-72!). 
Third year, 2020 the season was shortened due to COVID.  Could have been a 10-12 win team.  Beat everybody except Bama who throttled everybody including Ohio State in the NC.  Barely missed the CFP, but throttled UNC and Mack Brown in the Orange Bowl.  Finished 3rd or 4th in the final ranking, our highest in decades. 

Then, we gave him a guaranteed raise and the boosters went crazy with NIL money.  The result was we appeared to have a checked out coach and a bunch of talented but dysfunctional recruits.  Some with criminal tendencies or worse.  We then dropped back to our typical 8-4 type of seasons, then 5-7 but still beat Bama that year.  Then we canned him before the end of the '23 season.  Still on the hook for $77 or so million dollars to not coach. 
A&M might as well change their name to the 8-4's, because that's just our MO.  All the money in the world, and not much to show for it except "that close". 

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« Reply #3858 on: April 30, 2025, 09:06:21 PM »
Spurrier and Urbz were absolute dumpster fires in the nfl.

Nick had elite defenses in the nfl and was at least .500 and would’ve been highly successful had Miami ownership let him sign Drew Brees instead of Daunte fucking Culpepper who was washed up with a Swiss cheese knee at that point in time.
lol, this is about college football, but your "yeah, but" for Saban's NFL stint is hilarious! 

Spurrier won an ACC title at DUKE, owned the SEC for a decade w/ a NC at Florida, and then gave South Carolina the 3-best seasons in their entire history... in 3 consecutive years.

Meyer went undefeated at Utah, 2 NCs at Florida, and both undefeated and NC seasons at OSU.
mdot:  Not good enough, they were ass in the NFL.

You cannot be taken seriously.
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« Reply #3859 on: April 30, 2025, 10:36:39 PM »
lol, this is about college football, but your "yeah, but" for Saban's NFL stint is hilarious! 

Spurrier won an ACC title at DUKE, owned the SEC for a decade w/ a NC at Florida, and then gave South Carolina the 3-best seasons in their entire history... in 3 consecutive years.

Meyer went undefeated at Utah, 2 NCs at Florida, and both undefeated and NC seasons at OSU.
mdot:  Not good enough, they were ass in the NFL.

You cannot be taken seriously.


Who would win between Spurrier's Redskins vs Urban's Jags? (adjust for time period in a manner similar to what you do with your game) 

 

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