header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: Rankings ... ugh

 (Read 291875 times)

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 45434
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3318 on: December 16, 2024, 09:54:30 AM »
nope!
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 22169
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3319 on: December 16, 2024, 09:59:31 AM »
Heh, I like things over rice.  I think one can get really really good BBQ in most states.  I had pretty decent real pulled pork in Scotland.
I mean, sure you can.  You can get really good Italian in Texas, too.

It's just the odds of a BBQ place outside of key BBQ-producing areas being good, are pretty low.  I had good BBQ in exactly one restaurant in California. So of course it's possible.  But I also had very bad BBQ in numerous restaurants in California.  So the frequency of occurrences of "good BBQ" in "bad BBQ states" is extremely low.  Odds are that any BBQ restaurant you try, outside of key BBQ producing areas, isn't going to be very good.  Shoot even here in Austin I'd say it's about 50-50 that you're going to get average BBQ if you don't know the right places to go.

Why did I keep eating bad BBQ in California, you might ask?  It's because my local colleagues kept on trying to impress me.  I was polite to them but finally just had to beg them to stop.

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 82500
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3320 on: December 16, 2024, 10:03:05 AM »
Fair enough.  It probably should reflect percentages rather than some absolute.  So, in Maine, 1% of BBQ places are "decent", meaning average for Texas.  Maybe it's 0.1%.

In Atlanta, it's probably about 25% in my experience that a place is "good" in my book, and probably 73% that it's "decent" or better.  We tried "Heirloom BBQ" recently which consistently gets ranked number uno here, but it was for me in the good category.

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 22169
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3321 on: December 16, 2024, 10:09:58 AM »
Fair enough.  It probably should reflect percentages rather than some absolute.  So, in Maine, 1% of BBQ places are "decent", meaning average for Texas.  Maybe it's 0.1%.

In Atlanta, it's probably about 25% in my experience that a place is "good" in my book, and probably 73% that it's "decent" or better.  We tried "Heirloom BBQ" recently which consistently gets ranked number uno here, but it was for me in the good category.
Oh yeah, for sure.  Totally agree on that.

Like I said, you can find good Italian in Austin.  But the percentage of good Italian restaurants in Austin, is much much lower than the percentage of good Italian restaurants in NY or Chicago.

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 82500
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3322 on: December 16, 2024, 10:13:33 AM »
I'd guess one can find good Italian food in most larger cities, and probably at a decent percentage if one excludes chains.

We took a lady from Hong Kong to several local Chinese places and she said they were all authentic, from different regions.  We took her to Fox Bros. BBQ and she ordered ...

... chicken salad.  It was not what she expected, at all.  We took her again and I suggested she try the brisket.

Ages ago I took my Dad to a NC BBQ place we liked a lot and he ordered a grilled cheese, and said it was the best GC he'd ever had.  

betarhoalphadelta

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 14495
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3323 on: December 16, 2024, 10:19:33 AM »
Sometimes if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. 


utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 22169
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3324 on: December 16, 2024, 10:24:26 AM »
The cooking thread is over there --->

Just kidding.

I always do dry rub on ribs, it's just my preference.  But a couple of weeks ago I had 3 racks of pork spares from Costco and there were only a handful of us eating, so I did 2 racks my normal way, but 1 rack I did with a tangy Asian sticky rub and glaze.  It turned out really tasty, I'll probably do it again some time.

betarhoalphadelta

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 14495
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3325 on: December 16, 2024, 10:30:36 AM »
Yeah, I do a dry rub and then finish with sauce. Family prefers 'em saucy. 

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 45434
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3326 on: December 16, 2024, 10:35:02 AM »
my brother better have something on the smoker wednesday
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 22169
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3327 on: December 16, 2024, 10:38:45 AM »
my brother better have something on the smoker wednesday
I've got almost 3 weeks off starting on Thursday, I'll probably do a brisket sometime Friday/Saturday before the Longhorns football game Saturday afternoon.  And if I'm doing a brisket then I might as well do some ribs, some sausage, and maybe a pork butt.  We're going camping after Christmas so having extra food won't be an issue...

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 31044
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3328 on: December 16, 2024, 10:45:38 AM »
Really good Italian here.

Carmelo's Italian Ristorante | Punta Gorda Italian Restaurant
Carmelo's Italian Ristorante | Punta Gorda Italian Restaurant

But it's not the best I've been to.

Italian Restaurant | Trattoria Stefano | Sheboygan, Wisconsin



U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 4317
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3329 on: December 16, 2024, 10:56:06 AM »
There doesn't seem to be a high % of BBQ restaurants in Louisiana.  The ones there are, are usually pretty good, I think. 

But then, maybe I just know the ones everybody knows is good and so they talk about them more often and I don't know about other ones which aren't very good. 

Or maybe I just have a low threshold of acceptability for BBQ.  Dunno.  I've definitely had bad BBQ.

But not in Texas, that I recall.  To my point, most everywhere I went in Texas was on the advice of other people, so there might be other joints that aren't good I never tried.  

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 82500
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3330 on: December 16, 2024, 11:04:15 AM »
I suspect in Texas a place with middlin' Q doesn't last long.  Here we'd have a lot of folks who don't know the diff.

I had some pretty not good up on Buford Highway a while back that surprised me.  Buford Highway is ugly but a foodie paradise.

I might not know really good Italian from just good, I like'em both I reckon.  This place is nice.  

La Grotta Ristorante Italiano


Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 82500
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #3331 on: December 16, 2024, 11:17:46 AM »
My wife told me a neighborhood restaurant in Paris doesn't last if it's not really good (out of the tourist district).  I've yet to have anything but very very good food in Paris away from tourists.  I recall being on a tour in Sorrento that the bus dropped us off next to a restaurant and told us that was the place to go.  We took a walk and found a very very good place away from the crowds.  I had spaghetti, I wanted something "simple" so I could taste the flavors, she had a small pizza.  Do we get anything that good in the States?  It's pretty rare I think, but can happen.  Maybe I can tell the diff.

The Indian places near us have Indians working in the kitchen and service staff.  The Japanese noodle place near us has Mexicans in the kitchen, they do a nice job.  I tip them special in December aside from the bill.  The Korean place has Koreans.  The Italian place I like a lot near us has Mexicans in the kitchen.  

Pasta da Pulcinella

The lady who owns it is Asian.  

The Mexican places all have .... Mexicans.

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.