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Topic: Rankings ... ugh

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Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #1400 on: November 29, 2023, 08:33:02 AM »
There will always be a controversy about who is selected last, and next year, probably next to last, and then the order (as 5th will be tougher than 4th).

I don't think they take injuries into account, just performance to date.  So, yeah, undefeated P5 teams will always be ahead of one losers, always, with perhaps a very unusual exception.  I was thinking about Ohio State a bit, playing on the road basically even with the #2 team in the country, and how they'd get dinged down to 6-7-8 for it.

A better way would be to let Vegas do this, but that can't happen.
They've already specifically stated that they CAN take injuries into account.

In FSU's case, provided they win, then I don't think the committee will keep them out.  But they've already stated that they can and that it's part of what they're looking at.

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« Reply #1401 on: November 29, 2023, 08:37:45 AM »
OK, I didn't see that one.  Sure, FSU at 13-0 is in the CFP, no doubt.  We could have four undefeateds for the first time.  Makes it simple anyway.


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« Reply #1402 on: November 29, 2023, 08:42:57 AM »
OK, I didn't see that one.  Sure, FSU at 13-0 is in the CFP, no doubt.  We could have four undefeateds for the first time.  Makes it simple anyway.


It comes back to the question of "best teams" versus "deserving teams."

At 13-0, FSU would appear to be a "deserving team."  But without their starting QB, there's certainly some doubt as to whether or not they're one of the four "best" teams.

So, what is the mission of the Selection Committee?  4 best teams?  4 most deserving teams?  Or none of the above?

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« Reply #1403 on: November 29, 2023, 08:47:40 AM »
I think it reads "four best teams for the playoff", which arguably is different from "foud best teams" ...

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« Reply #1404 on: November 29, 2023, 09:00:03 AM »
the committee does what ESPN and the SEC instruct them to do

most of us know this

it would seem that the SEC would favor Texas, as they are joining next season
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« Reply #1405 on: November 29, 2023, 09:02:29 AM »
I don't know how any of us could KNOW this.  It's speculation based on inference and feelings, not fact.

I'm sure they are influenced by past year's performances and outcomes.  Is there a year when an SEC got in when they clearly should not have?

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« Reply #1406 on: November 29, 2023, 09:14:40 AM »
come on Cincy, it's easy to hate ESPN and the SEC SEC SEC

Oh wait, you are an SEC guy!

damn
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« Reply #1407 on: November 29, 2023, 09:16:24 AM »
I try not to be an SEC guy.  One nice thing about all these discussions is that it enlarges my interest in CFB, which is nice when my team is down.

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« Reply #1408 on: November 29, 2023, 09:18:39 AM »
you almost had me fooled
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« Reply #1409 on: November 29, 2023, 09:20:41 AM »
The "SEC SEC SEC" stuff tends to be for teams that finish 3rd or lower in the SEC, I think.

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« Reply #1410 on: November 29, 2023, 09:23:37 AM »
agreed

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« Reply #1411 on: November 29, 2023, 09:26:04 AM »
The strongest conference debate this year should be pretty unclear, I think.  I'd probably go B1G at this point, PSU and Mizzou MIGHT face off in that one.

Bama-OSU would be fun.

Many would like to see UGA-UM.

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« Reply #1412 on: November 29, 2023, 09:27:36 AM »
I chanted "SECSECSEC" mockingly at Arkansas as they lost their final game in Austin, after they announced their plan to leave the SWC for the SEC back in '90.

I can't imagine I'd ever chant it again, but if Texas manages to beat OkState and win the B12 championship on Saturday, I'm sure there will be some surly Longhorn fans in JerryWorld, chanting it in an effort to mock dickface Yormarck for his clear anti-Texas bias.  


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« Reply #1413 on: November 29, 2023, 09:28:39 AM »
in a few years or decades that's what it might be

Big vs SEC postseason

the rest just won't matter or be worthy of the $$$ that is generated
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