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« Reply #1218 on: October 07, 2023, 09:10:12 AM »
I’ve always felt that the roads in Tx were pretty good. 

I did notice the roads in La were pretty bad. 
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« Reply #1219 on: October 07, 2023, 09:14:46 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 07, 2023, 08:41:57 AM
I suspect often they don't literally steal it, they do it quasi legally, favored bidding contracts etc.  Fifty years ago you could tell who was governor or DoT Commish by looking at a map of the state roads.  The I-85 routing story is illustrative.


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« Reply #1220 on: October 07, 2023, 09:15:13 AM »
The roads near you could be bad, or good, and not reflective of what they measure here of course.  The city streets around me are in mostly pretty bad shape.  There is so much construction they keep digging them up for utilities and the repairs are not usually good.  Even new stretches of pavement get dug up for something, maybe fiver optics or a new water or electric line, and boom.  The freeways are usually in good shape but we avoid them as much as possible.  Bridges?  Who would know?

Out in the country, the state highways are nearly always quite nice, I appreciate that when we tour around.  We like to venture to state parks and walk about.

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« Reply #1221 on: October 07, 2023, 09:50:40 AM »
Interstate 85 in Georgia - Wikipedia

From Atlanta, I-85 north was originally slated to be built through the city of Athens to provide an easy link between the capital city and the University of Georgia. However, then-Governor Ernest Vandiver worked to make sure the highway traversed his home county of Franklin, a stretch that now bears his name. At the time, he promised equivalent access for Athens and Gainesville.[19] It was not until the completion of SR 316 in the 1990s that there was finally a relatively quick, multilane expressway connecting Athens and Atlanta,[citation needed] (US 78 is also multilane between Athens and Atlanta but it is not expressway-grade) although SR 316 still is largely at-grade.


If you look at a map of NW SC, you can see a 20 mile section of freeway that connects to nothing.  Georgia was supposed to build I-85 through Gainesville, not Athens, and connect up with this portion already built in SC.  Vandiver got it rerouted south through his home town, and then it jogs north to catch Greenville, SC.

I-16 did the same thing because the DoT head was from Soperton, GA, so he got it routed to where it ended for a while to route traffic through that town.  He had a stretch built in the middle of nowhere that ended near Soperton, for several years.

I played bball in HS with the guy who was head of DoT for a long time, he corrected a lot of this mess, they named Spaghetti Junction after him.



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« Reply #1222 on: October 07, 2023, 10:17:11 AM »
Atlanta's Spaghetti Junction ranked #1 for Top 100 Bottlenecks in U.S. | 11alive.com
Atlanta's Spaghetti Junction ranked #1 for Top 100 Bottlenecks in U.S. | 11alive.com

Irony.

1. I-285 at I-85 (Spaghetti Junction, ranked #1)
2. I-75 at I-285 NB ( Cobb Cloverleaf Ranked #4)
3. I-20 at I-285 WB (Ranked #17)
4. I-20 at I-285 EB (Ranked #46)
5. I-20 at I-75/85 (Ranked #79)
6. I-75 at I-85 (Downtown connector, Brookwood Ranked #90)
7. I-75 at I-675 (Ranked #95)
The research revealed that the average speed on Spaghetti Junction peaked at 24.73 mph, that's slower than a school driving zone.


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« Reply #1223 on: October 07, 2023, 10:27:32 AM »
RANKINGS!!
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« Reply #1224 on: October 07, 2023, 10:32:34 AM »
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« Reply #1225 on: October 07, 2023, 10:36:59 AM »
Is Chik-fil-A introducing spaghetti??
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« Reply #1226 on: October 07, 2023, 10:40:52 AM »


This is the interchange back in the day, still under construction.
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« Reply #1227 on: October 07, 2023, 10:41:58 AM »


Now it's a more modern thing of course, the main challenge was the four interchanges with regular streets not far from this.
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« Reply #1228 on: October 08, 2023, 02:07:56 PM »
We all know the deal, but Texas played a great game on a neutral site against a top ranked opponent and barely loses after some TOs, and the coaches drop them 7 spots, to 11th, just below Alabama.  A team they defeated, at their place, rather soundly.

The good thing is it doesn't matter, it's just ... expected.

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« Reply #1229 on: October 08, 2023, 06:42:20 PM »
And you wonder why CA roads are bad...

It takes 5+ years for a freeway on-ramp project...

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« Reply #1230 on: October 09, 2023, 06:42:42 AM »
I've driven a fair bit in CA and didn't find the roads notably poor.  
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« Reply #1231 on: October 10, 2023, 09:19:12 AM »
U.S. cities where home prices rose the most in the last year (cnbc.com)


  • Los Angeles: 23.8%
  • San Diego: 18.2%
  • Richmond: 15%
  • Cincinnati, Ohio: 14.6%
  • Providence, Rhode Island and Massachusetts: 14.6%
  • Boston: 14.1%
  • Columbus, Ohio: 12.1%
  • Rochester, New York: 11.4%
  • Pittsburgh: 10.6%
  • Chicago: 10.3%
  • Indianapolis: 10%

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