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« Reply #602 on: July 10, 2023, 08:10:05 AM »
Somewhere is a list of good colleges that are good values, e.g., you are better off with a degree from X and $100 K in your pocket than a degree from Harvard and nothing but debt.  I figure IF you graduate from Harvard, there is a pretty good chance you're going post graduate anyway, MBA, MD, MS, PhD, something.
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« Reply #603 on: July 10, 2023, 08:39:16 AM »
Madison is a bargain - especially in-state. $11K.
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« Reply #604 on: July 10, 2023, 08:45:17 AM »
Yeah, I think in state publics would be high on a list of value broadly speaking.

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« Reply #605 on: July 10, 2023, 09:18:25 AM »
Illinois is $18-22K in-state, depending on your major.

Michigan is about the same.

Engineering majors pay the most at both places, of course.

Florida is the best bargain of all. An AAU education for $6,400.00/year.
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« Reply #606 on: July 10, 2023, 09:20:06 AM »
I think the AAU thing is most relevant for graduate schools.
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« Reply #607 on: July 10, 2023, 09:24:37 AM »
I didn't know what AAU was before UNL's invitation to the B1G

I suppose academics are interested in such things
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« Reply #608 on: July 10, 2023, 09:26:49 AM »
I wouldn't base my decision on undergraduate program on AAU status at all.  Some very good undergraduate schools are not AAU.  It's an indication of having a large graduate program and a lot of grant money.
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« Reply #609 on: July 10, 2023, 09:54:09 AM »
The best engineering schools are those with AAU status. They have the best faculty. It was a must for me.
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« Reply #610 on: July 10, 2023, 10:07:53 AM »
That probably is true, I would opine any degree in a STEM field would benefit from AAU status, so I amend my previous.

You'd likely have better faculty and better facilities.

My buddy took me on a tour of Georgia Tech a couple years back, I was astonished.  I had visited in 1975 and it was really a dump back then.  They benefitted a lot from the Olympics and have grown from about 8,000 undergrads to nearly 40 K.  They still are bad at football of course.
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« Reply #611 on: July 10, 2023, 11:01:50 AM »
Yeah I think it matters for engineering and likely other STEM-oriented degrees.  Probably not so much for liberal arts.
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« Reply #612 on: July 10, 2023, 01:04:37 PM »
For engineering undergrad, AAU isn't so much a big deal. It's ABET accreditation that you're looking for. Most licensing boards won't accept transcripts for licensure from a non-ABET-accredited school.
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« Reply #613 on: July 10, 2023, 01:07:45 PM »
SEC Football: Examining student acceptance rates for all 14 schools (usatoday.com)

Interesting, to me, if accurate, a lot with ARs well over 50%, some over 80%.
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« Reply #614 on: July 10, 2023, 01:13:42 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on July 10, 2023, 01:04:37 PM
For engineering undergrad, AAU isn't so much a big deal. It's ABET accreditation that you're looking for. Most licensing boards won't accept transcripts for licensure from a non-ABET-accredited school.
bf's point about AAU for engineering undergrad is that, large research investment tends to bring top-flight professors, which ultimately helps the undergrad engineering students.

And also, licensure for EEs isn't much of a thing, very few get licensed. So it's definitely a discipline-by-discipline matter.
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« Reply #615 on: July 10, 2023, 01:20:07 PM »
I had a buddy at work who had a PhD in chem eng from Columbia.  He was a sharp guy, but didn't work very hard at all, a thing I came to understand later.  That's a rare breed outside academia.
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