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« Reply #4732 on: August 02, 2025, 10:11:56 AM »
most have jumped off the bandwagon created in the 90s

that was 30 years ago
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« Reply #4733 on: August 02, 2025, 10:31:08 AM »


Do you think this is a result of poor markeing, some change in preferences due to an aging clientel, or something else?

I've never liked Dr. P or Pepsi, I do like Coke but don't drink it, maybe once a year, I think the negative health aspects of any of these is pretty severe.
I'd argue this is the inevitable fate of being basically the same as #1, but slightly worse.

Pepsi is why college football MUST not become an NFL-lite product.  Gradual irrelevance is where that road leads.
Accentuate the differences. 
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« Reply #4734 on: August 02, 2025, 11:23:19 AM »
I dimly recall 30+ years ago some inkling Coke was losing it and Pepsi would take over.  This is aside from the New Coke "fiasco/brilliant marketing stroke", though "New Coke" was the result of this ebb.  New Coke did better in blind taste tests, so Coke went with it.  I suspect Pepsi today probably wins blind taste tests.

Our marketing people claimed that if they stopped advertising, our major brands would lose share rapidly and become nonmajor brands, much faster than I would have expected.  For me, it's a simple argument as to how susceptible we are to propaganda.  Some brand is on TV a lot, we tend to assume it's a good brand.  And some of the private label brands you may try are pretty clearly inferior.  But whether you use Tide or All or Kirkland brand detergent, I suspect you can't tell a difference.  The perfume might be a major factor, not the cleaning.

The Kirkland brands are nearly all very good IMHO, including wines.

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« Reply #4735 on: August 02, 2025, 11:26:57 AM »
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« Reply #4736 on: August 02, 2025, 11:42:06 AM »
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« Reply #4737 on: August 02, 2025, 12:36:01 PM »
Miami has like 13 fans and none of them went to Miami.
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« Reply #4738 on: August 02, 2025, 08:26:51 PM »
I dimly recall 30+ years ago some inkling Coke was losing it and Pepsi would take over.  This is aside from the New Coke "fiasco/brilliant marketing stroke", though "New Coke" was the result of this ebb.  New Coke did better in blind taste tests, so Coke went with it.  I suspect Pepsi today probably wins blind taste tests.
What I've read somewhere is that Pepsi was sweeter than Coke, and in a 1 oz pour, people DID prefer it. But that's over a 12+ oz period drinking one, it was sweetness overload and people went right back to Coke.

And that the reason New Coke failed is that they tried to make it sweeter... And that was worse. 

That might be a complete BS myth, or I could be misremembering it. YMMV. 

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« Reply #4739 on: August 02, 2025, 08:47:32 PM »
Coca-Cola has been the #1 soda both in the US and worldwide forever.  Never has Pepsi been above it, ever.  
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« Reply #4740 on: August 02, 2025, 09:54:41 PM »

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« Reply #4741 on: Today at 01:19:24 AM »
I can do that, too:  'Coke was still outselling Pepsi...
'Coke was still outselling Pepsi...
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« Reply #4742 on: Today at 07:33:05 AM »
I prefer caffeine-free diet Pepsi.
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« Reply #4743 on: Today at 09:03:58 AM »
Coke was worried that Pepsi was gaining on them, and Pepsi was preferred by more folks in blind taste tests.  So, New Coke.

It was definitely sweeter, to me, and probably leveled out blind testing scores.  So, Coke changed, either as a mistake or marketing genius.  New Coke sold along side Coke Classic for a while, then disappeared.  Interesting story, to me.


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