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« Reply #4368 on: June 23, 2025, 05:04:15 PM »
I can't recall ever seeing turkey on a menu outside the US.  I've seen barbecue, even in Scotland of all  places, but it's obviously unusual.


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« Reply #4369 on: June 23, 2025, 05:05:02 PM »
Jamestown was the first permanent English colony.  The Spanish had their first at St. Augustine, FL (North America).  I understand the early "pilgrims" knew their latitude and expected winters about like England, but were badly mistaken.  I guess once you scratch out some existence it's tough to uproot and have everyone go south.  Winters in Jamestown aren't awful of course.  In summer they would be fighting malaria and whatever else.  Jamestown was briefly abandoned, they were starving.  Eventually, most folks moved a bit inland to Williamsburg to get away from mosquitos.

Perhaps the most favorable fact about the location was that it was uninhabited because the leaders of the nearby indigenous nations[14] considered the site too poor and remote for agriculture.[15] The island was swampy and isolated, and it offered limited space, was plagued by mosquitoes, and afforded only brackish tidal river water unsuitable for drinking.
I was always bewildered by the fact that they were starving.  Can you imagine how much wild game had to be out there.  Even with primitive firearms you should still have traps, snares, whatever.  No limits, no game wardens to contend with.  

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« Reply #4370 on: June 23, 2025, 05:06:30 PM »
an all meat diet???  sure
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« Reply #4371 on: June 23, 2025, 05:10:48 PM »
They arrived at the wrong time of year also, too late for planting anything.  

The Jamestown settlers arrived in Virginia during a severe drought, according to a research study conducted by the Jamestown Archaeological Assessment (JAA) team in the 1990s. The JAA analyzed information from a study conducted in 1985 by David Stahle and others, who obtained drawings of 800-year-old bald cypress trees along the Nottoway and Blackwater rivers. The lifespan of these trees is up to 1,000 years, and their rings offer a good indication of an area's annual amount of rainfall. The borings revealed that the worst drought in 700 years occurred between 1606 and 1612. This severe drought affected the Jamestown colonists and Powhatan tribe's ability to produce food and obtain a safe supply of water.[16]

The settlers also arrived too late in the year to get crops planted.[17] Many in the group were either gentlemen or their manservants, both equally unaccustomed to the hard labor demanded by the harsh task of carving out a viable colony.[17] One of these was Robert Hunt, a former vicar of Reculver, England, who celebrated the first known Anglican Eucharist in the territory of the future United States on June 21, 1607.[18]

Two-thirds of the settlers died before ships arrived in 1608 with supplies and German and Polish craftsmen,[19][20][21] who helped to establish the first manufactories in the colony. As a result, glassware became the foremost American products to be exported to Europe at the time. Clapboard had already been sent back to England beginning with the first returning ship

The delivery of supplies in 1608 on the first and second supply missions of Captain Newport had also added to the number of hungry settlers. It seemed certain at that time that the colony at Jamestown would meet the same fate as earlier English attempts to settle in North America, specifically the Roanoke Colony (Lost Colony) and the Popham Colony, unless there was a major relief effort. The Germans who arrived with the second supply and a few others defected to the Powhatans, with weapons and equipment.[22] The Germans even planned to join a rumored Spanish attack on the colony and urged the Powhatans to join it.[23] The Spanish were driven off by the timely arrival in July 1609 of Captain Samuel Argall in Mary and John, a larger ship than the Spanish reconnaissance ship La Asunción de Cristo.[24] Argall's voyage also prevented the Spanish from gaining knowledge of the weakness of the colony. Don Pedro de Zúñiga, the Spanish ambassador to England, was desperately seeking this information (in addition to spies) in order to get Philip III of Spain to authorize an attack on the colony.[25]

The investors of the Virginia Company of London expected to reap rewards from their speculative investments. With the second supply, they expressed their frustrations and made demands upon the leaders of Jamestown in written form. They specifically demanded that the colonists send commodities sufficient to pay the cost of the voyage, a lump of gold, assurance that they had found the South Sea, and one member of the lost Roanoke Colony. It fell to the third president of the council, Captain John Smith, to deliver a bold and much-needed wake-up call in response to the investors in London, demanding practical laborers and craftsmen who could help make the colony more self-sufficient.[26]



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« Reply #4372 on: June 23, 2025, 05:14:32 PM »
Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking.

So, smoked turkey might be the most uniquely American dish of them all?

And I guess, some kind of corn dishes?

Sweet potatoes.
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« Reply #4373 on: June 25, 2025, 06:45:05 AM »

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« Reply #4374 on: June 25, 2025, 06:46:50 AM »
Liters. Just dumb.
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« Reply #4375 on: June 25, 2025, 07:44:02 AM »
This is why I can't find good Mexican food in Texas and California....


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« Reply #4376 on: June 25, 2025, 07:57:35 AM »
I haven't seen a Taco Bell anywhere around here, but it's not like I'm actively trying to find one.

Looks like the closest one is 14 miles away. I'm fine with that.
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« Reply #4377 on: June 27, 2025, 07:14:54 AM »
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« Reply #4378 on: June 27, 2025, 07:17:19 AM »
I told my kids to major in an area they find interesting and not worry that much about how practical the degree might be.  It has worked out OK for them, so far.

Trying to get a STEM degree when the subjects bore you probably isn't going to work well.

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« Reply #4379 on: June 27, 2025, 07:32:35 AM »
I told my kids to major in an area they find interesting and not worry that much about how practical the degree might be.  It has worked out OK for them, so far.

Trying to get a STEM degree when the subjects bore you probably isn't going to work well.
Yup.  I know many people who tried to do this, and all failed to one degree or another.

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« Reply #4380 on: June 27, 2025, 07:51:08 AM »
When I was in school, a ton of freshmen were "premed".  First year chemistry was a huge class (several of them).  Many washed out quickly, then second year chem (organic) was the real divider, we started with 180 something, people sitting in the aisles, ended the year with 33.  Of that 33, I'd guess 28 or so were headed to medical school.

There were very very few actual chem majors.


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