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Cincydawg

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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #126 on: December 15, 2020, 07:56:58 PM »
Assume Iowa State makes it in, is that any better than putting Cincinnati in if they are undefeated?

Maybe the score is 42-14 instead of 63-3?
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #127 on: December 15, 2020, 08:02:16 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 15, 2020, 07:56:58 PM
Assume Iowa State makes it in, is that any better than putting Cincinnati in if they are undefeated?

Maybe the score is 42-14 instead of 63-3?
It's 2020. Let's let a G5 get massacred for once. 

Hell, it's 2020. Maybe they'll win. 
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #128 on: December 15, 2020, 08:15:47 PM »
the Bear just had nice things to say about the Cyclones on the committee ranking show

in one metric, Cyclones better than A&M and just a bit off from Clemson

maybe the Birds in a blender would give Bama a helluva game

I know onw thing, the Cyclone fans would just love to be in.  Ass whippin or not
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #129 on: December 15, 2020, 09:04:54 PM »
It's kind of sad the playoff committee clearly had no intent to put any G5 team anywhere near the playoff, no matter what they do on the field. Makes the whole enterprise less legitimate and less fun. But it does help the bottom line for the power conferences.
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #130 on: December 15, 2020, 09:40:45 PM »
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #131 on: December 15, 2020, 09:59:53 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 15, 2020, 09:04:54 PM
It's kind of sad the playoff committee clearly had no intent to put any G5 team anywhere near the playoff, no matter what they do on the field. Makes the whole enterprise less legitimate and less fun. But it does help the bottom line for the power conferences.
what have they done on the field?

the G5 team with the most impressive resume is probably Coastal Carolina.

beat Kansas by 15 and BYU by 5.  Any other P5 wins?

Cincy?  any wins over P5 teams?

LOUISIANA of course has a great win over ISU and a loss to Coastal.

Did any of these G5 teams play the type of schedule as Iowa State, A&M, Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, Indiana???
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #132 on: December 15, 2020, 10:13:06 PM »
schedule schedule schedule schedule schedule


Maybe Cincinnati is great.  But we still wouldn't know it, even if COVID hadn't screwed everyone's schedules up.  The lone P5 game the Bearcats scheduled originally was Nebraska.  


I mean shit.  If you don't schedule (much less play) a team in the preseason top 50, what's with all the bitching and moaning about fairness?
Everyone - the media, the fans, their OWN fans would obliterate a USC or Michigan or Auburn if their toughest scheduled game was vs Nebraska in 2020.  It would be impossible, thanks to P5 conference scheduling.  But imagine if Notre Dame came up with an independent schedule whose toughest test was Nebraska.  
It would be a joke.  What's the difference?
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #133 on: December 15, 2020, 10:16:43 PM »
Let's edit Cinci's original schedule to merit consideration into the playoff, if they'd manage to get through it unscathed:

  • 09/03 – Austin Peay
  • 09/11 – Western Michigan
  • 09/19 – at Miami (OH) (FL)
  • 09/26 – at Nebraska
  • 10/03 – South Florida
  • 10/17 – at Tulsa
  • 10/24 – at SMU  TCU
  • 10/31 – Memphis
  • 11/07 – Houston
  • 11/12 – East North Carolina
  • 11/21 – at UCF
  • 11/28 – at Temple


There we go, that's better.  Go undefeated with Michigan, Miami, Florida, TCU, and UNC in there, THEN we'll talk.  But sorry/not sorry, there's way too many cardinal directions and piles of crap in the real one to complain about a goddamn thing.
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #134 on: December 15, 2020, 10:22:24 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 15, 2020, 09:59:53 PM
what have they done on the field?

the G5 team with the most impressive resume is probably Coastal Carolina.

beat Kansas by 15 and BYU by 5.  Any other P5 wins?

Cincy?  any wins over P5 teams?

LOUISIANA of course has a great win over ISU and a loss to Coastal.

Did any of these G5 teams play the type of schedule as Iowa State, A&M, Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, Indiana???
Iowa State got blown out by Louisiana and is ranked above Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina.
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #135 on: December 15, 2020, 10:24:32 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 15, 2020, 10:16:43 PM
Let's edit Cinci's original schedule to merit consideration into the playoff, if they'd manage to get through it unscathed:

  • 09/03 – Austin Peay
  • 09/11 – Western Michigan
  • 09/19 – at Miami (OH) (FL)
  • 09/26 – at Nebraska
  • 10/03 – South Florida
  • 10/17 – at Tulsa
  • 10/24 – at SMU  TCU
  • 10/31 – Memphis
  • 11/07 – Houston
  • 11/12 – East North Carolina
  • 11/21 – at UCF
  • 11/28 – at Temple


There we go, that's better.  Go undefeated with Michigan, Miami, Florida, TCU, and UNC in there, THEN we'll talk.  But sorry/not sorry, there's way too many cardinal directions and piles of crap in the real one to complain about a goddamn thing.
This isn't even criticism. This is the Dr. Suess style of criticism, where you can't be in the playoffs if you don't play the right teams and you can't play the right teams if you aren't in the right group.
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #136 on: December 15, 2020, 10:40:46 PM »
OMFG.


ISU...............Cinci...........Coastal Silliness
Louisiana.....Austin Peay?.....@Kansas
@TCU..........Army.............Campbell?
OU..............S Fla...............Ark St
TexasTech....@SMU.............@Louisiana
@Okla St.......Memphis.........GA Southern
@Kansas.......Houston..........@GA State
Baylor............ECU...............South AL
K-State...........@UCF............App St
@Texas...........-------............@Texas St
WV.................-------............BYU
----...............--------...........Troy

I'm going to bold the "decent and tougher" games.  You know, the games an average team might lose.  The games a UCLA or Kentucky or a Virginia might lose. 
Then, I'll mark in red the crap-fest dead weight games.  Then we'll all open our eyes big and wide and see what's there.  And then the Bearcats can go away. 
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Cincinnata?
Fewer games.
3 crap games
1 game against a team with a pulse.  ONE
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Meanwhile, ISU is playing 8 teams that could easily beat it.  Yeah, it lost to 2 of them, BUT IT BEAT 6 OF THEM.  6 wins over genuine threats vs 1.  
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The Myrtle Beach Spring Breakers have a crap schedule, too, obviously, and shouldn't be taken seriously.  And aren't. 
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #137 on: December 15, 2020, 10:48:12 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 15, 2020, 10:22:24 PM
Iowa State got blown out by Louisiana and is ranked above Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina.
I have no problem with this and the committee agrees
because, since the first game of the season, Iowa State has been impressive with an impressive schedule
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #138 on: December 15, 2020, 10:55:13 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 15, 2020, 10:24:32 PM
This isn't even criticism. This is the Dr. Suess style of criticism, where you can't be in the playoffs if you don't play the right teams and you can't play the right teams if you aren't in the right group.
You can play the right teams if you schedule them. 
COVID happened, no OOC games (for the most part).  Bad luck.

Want citations?
1976 Florida State - crap sandwich independent, now in the ACC with 3 national championships
1984 Louisville - considered dropping down to I-AA, hired a name HC, joined Conf USA, then Big East, now in the ACC
1995 TCU - conference disbanded, was part of the have-nots, joined the WAC, then Conf USA, MWC, and now the Big 12
1990 Rutgers - joined the Big East, was its whipping boy for a decade, then a year in the AAC, now in the Big Ten
1998 Utah - longtime WAC member, moved up to new MWC, did well, now in the PAC-12
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It takes time and luck and vision and patience and a willingness to schedule above your weight class over and over and over, but if you're able to do that, then you get to earn your seat at the table.
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This one-good-year whining is bullshit
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #139 on: December 15, 2020, 11:11:19 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 15, 2020, 09:59:53 PM
what have they done on the field?

the G5 team with the most impressive resume is probably Coastal Carolina.

beat Kansas by 15 and BYU by 5.  Any other P5 wins?

Cincy?  any wins over P5 teams?

LOUISIANA of course has a great win over ISU and a loss to Coastal.

Did any of these G5 teams play the type of schedule as Iowa State, A&M, Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, Indiana???
Fearless. There are almost no non-conferece games. There's a pandemic. 

There were like what? 25 P5-G5 games total?
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