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Topic: Purdue (2-1, 4-2) at #2 Iowa (3-1, 6-1) Post Game

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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2021, 09:25:57 AM »
Boiler Magic???
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2021, 09:35:38 AM »
Kirk Ferentz got himself in trouble in yesterday's press conference when asked about Iowa fans booing the injured PSU players in the last game.  Instead of backing off, he doubled-down, saying this was only the 2nd time in a Big Ten game where he thought a team was faking injuries, and went into detail how he knows it goes on at other programs.

The key question is,  Ferentz never speaks off the cuff, so he must know something, but in the end, why stir the pot?  You need to move on to Purdue and leave PSU behind, right?

  I don't know if it was part of his strategy, probably not,  but this may be a way to motivate what would be a flat Iowa team  otherwise.  Throw in the overall perception that Iowa would have lost if PSU QB never got hurt,  and might just provide the motivation for Iowa to go and blow out Purdue.
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2021, 09:45:30 AM »
Kirk Ferentz doesn't always speak glowingly of other programs

his son does not run an up tempo offense

some PSU players were injured and left the game

the fans have nothing to be proud of
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2021, 10:47:48 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on October 13, 2021, 09:35:38 AM
Kirk Ferentz got himself in trouble in yesterday's press conference when asked about Iowa fans booing the injured PSU players in the last game.  Instead of backing off, he doubled-down, saying this was only the 2nd time in a Big Ten game where he thought a team was faking injuries, and went into detail how he knows it goes on at other programs.
Of course it happens,some squads may take the high road and not.But if the player in question is being treated or found out to be actually hurt then every team will circle this game on the schedule - not that they should need incentive but just human nature.And I think the motivation will be to pound IA as now they are nobodies under dog as they have scorboard on Michigan,tOSU and the N.Lions.

GO BOILERS
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2021, 10:56:04 AM »
Quote from: WhiskeyM on October 13, 2021, 06:22:23 AM
I watched on 10/20/18.  Still my favorite game ever watched on tv.  (Brees to Morales was my favorite in person, guess it's an Ohio State thing).
Bastage ;D
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2021, 11:01:20 AM »
but, don't have scoreboard on the Boilers
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2021, 01:44:17 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 13, 2021, 09:45:30 AM
Kirk Ferentz doesn't always speak glowingly of other programs

his son does not run an up tempo offense

some PSU players were injured and left the game

the fans have nothing to be proud of
I am wondering if the Brian Ferentz influence is rubbing on his dad. Brian is known more as a hot head and has a completely different personality from his normally low-key dad.  But Kirk Ferentz has displayed a couple ballsy moments the last couple years, but only against teams he seems to some beef with.

For example, Kirk Ferentz last year took all 3 timeouts late in the 2nd half in a blow-out victory against Minnesota.  The game was clearly over.  Still not sure what that was all about.

In the PSU game, KF decided to just kneel down in the 2nd last drive against PSU, and then give the ball back to PSU offense,  clearly stating we don't believe there is any chance your punt return team or your offense is going to score on us.  Although looking back,  this move was very similar to Iowa's 6-4 victory over PSU in 2004.  Then Iowa intentionally took a safety while only leading 6-2.  Meaning after the safety made it 6-4,  all PSU needed was a FG to win, with enough time left for at least 2 drives,  but Ferentz knew there was no chance PSU would even get a FG that day.
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2021, 02:19:16 PM »
don't go checking Brian's emails
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2021, 02:31:10 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on October 13, 2021, 01:44:17 PM
I am wondering if the Brian Ferentz influence is rubbing on his dad. Brian is known more as a hot head and has a completely different personality from his normally low-key dad.  But Kirk Ferentz has displayed a couple ballsy moments the last couple years, but only against teams he seems to some beef with.

For example, Kirk Ferentz last year took all 3 timeouts late in the 2nd half in a blow-out victory against Minnesota.  The game was clearly over.  Still not sure what that was all about.

In the PSU game, KF decided to just kneel down in the 2nd last drive against PSU, and then give the ball back to PSU offense,  clearly stating we don't believe there is any chance your punt return team or your offense is going to score on us.  Although looking back,  this move was very similar to Iowa's 6-4 victory over PSU in 2004.  Then Iowa intentionally took a safety while only leading 6-2.  Meaning after the safety made it 6-4,  all PSU needed was a FG to win, with enough time left for at least 2 drives,  but Ferentz knew there was no chance PSU would even get a FG that day.

Kirk is very petty and has a long memory. He's been that way a long time; it has nothing to do with Brian.
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2021, 03:46:00 PM »
Quote from: iahawk15 on October 13, 2021, 02:31:10 PM
Kirk is very petty and has a long memory. He's been that way a long time; it has nothing to do with Brian.
one would also say the acorn doesn't fall to far away from the tree
one just hides better than the other...or at least has for a much longer time
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2021, 04:12:22 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on October 13, 2021, 01:44:17 PM

For example, Kirk Ferentz last year took all 3 timeouts late in the 2nd half in a blow-out victory against Minnesota.  The game was clearly over.  Still not sure what that was all about.

He did this because with less than 30 secs in the game and inside the 5, PJ Fleck called a timeout to set up a scoring play with his starters still in the game (score was 35-0). On the ensuing drive KF used all his to be funny or a smart ass. He ended up taking a knee to end the game.
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2021, 07:43:56 PM »
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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2021, 07:48:55 PM »
I was shocked by the comments, too. This video does not actually depict the Penn State player going down with an allegedly feigned injury. But watch the reaction of Coach Ferentz, and Coach Levar Woods to the alleged injury.
(9) Mark Freund on Twitter: "We know Penn State had some legitimate injuries in this game, but this 54 seconds of video was especially entertaining. I believe this player walked off the field shortly after this clip ends... Let's just say the Iowa coaching staff wasn't buying this one. https://t.co/YC6RPQaIi8" / Twitter
(9) Mark Freund on Twitter: "We know Penn State had some legitimate injuries in this game, but this 54 seconds of video was especially entertaining. I believe this player walked off the field shortly after this clip ends... Let's just say the Iowa coaching staff wasn't buying this one. https://t.co/YC6RPQaIi8" / Twitter

Despite Iowa not going to an up-tempo game, with "injuries" like these, they couldn't up-tempo the next play if they wanted to. This write-up is from the Des Moines Register's and Iowa City Press-Citizen's website "Hawk Central":
Here were the three main beefs that Iowa fans had:
  • Safety Jaquan Brisker forced an injury timeout after a 20-yard Tyler Goodson run in the first quarter. He missed one play and returned to play the rest of the game.
  • Defensive tackle Dvon Ellies went down one play after a 22-yard pass to wide receiver Nico Ragaini in the second quarter; he returned to action in the second half.
  • Defensive end Arlong Ebiketie went down after an 18-yard Goodson run in the third quarter and returned on the same drive. That is when Fox broadcaster Joel Klatt also brought up the curious timing of the injuries.
It’s worth mentioning here that Ferentz’s son-in-law, Tyler Barnes, was the director of player personnel at Vanderbilt during James Franklin’s three years as coach there. Barnes is Iowa’s recruiting director now; Franklin coaches Penn State.

 “There are two people in our building who have been places where ‘scuba’ and ‘turtle’ were the code words. So, it goes on,” Ferentz said. “We don’t coach it. Haven’t really been exposed to it. But our fans thought they smelled a rat, I guess. I don’t know. They responded the way they responded."
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“Our fans aren’t stupid. They’re watching, they know what’s going on,” Ferentz said. “I’ve been here 23 years. I think that’s only the second time we’ve seen that kind of stuff going on.”
It is a safe bet that the other game Ferentz was referencing was 2011 vs. Michigan State, when defensive tackle Jerel Worthy essentially admitted afterward that he and other Spartans were going down to get a free timeout and slow Iowa’s momentum.
Terry Roberts replaces Riley Moss; Tyler Linderbaum for Heisman? (hawkcentral.com)
Timing of the allegedly feigned injuries now looks a bit more suspicious after reading this article, and viewing the video. If anybody has other video of the players who shuttled back in after allegedly feigned injuries, I would like to see it. I initially agreed with Franklin, and now I am not so sure. Nepotism at high paying jobs on the football staff exists in Iowa City. So not all is well.



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Re: Purdue (1-1, 3-2) at #2 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Game Week
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2021, 08:28:46 PM »
As Hurry Up and Wait, solely to prevent substitutions, has increased in use, and decreased the watchability of the sport both from a tactical and viewership standpoint.  I'm fine with any defensive tactics to stop it, up to and including hiding the game ball
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