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bayareabadger

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2018, 08:57:04 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 12, 2018, 12:49:18 AM
I'm sorry, but did UTAH STATE go from unranked to #14 in the AP poll?!?  WTF is the world coming to???
No, it doesn't matter, but it's still demented.
No. They made the poll two weeks ago, going from unranked to 18th on a week when seven teams fell out. 
That was the first week three-loss teams appeared (we talked about that on another thread), and people suddenly noticed the one-loss G5 teams. Both USU and Fresno jumped in as they had been hammering or smothering people. 
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #71 on: November 12, 2018, 09:04:00 AM »
My impression is that the gap between the top teams and the second tier teams is unusually large this year.
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #72 on: November 12, 2018, 10:01:44 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 12, 2018, 09:04:00 AM
My impression is that the gap between the top teams and the second tier teams is unusually large this year.
Yeah I think the teams ranked in the teens look substantially worse to me than teams normally in that range.
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« Reply #73 on: November 12, 2018, 11:31:37 AM »
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Michigan
5. Georgia
6. Oklahoma
7. Washington State
8. West Virginia
9. Ohio State
10. UCF
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #74 on: November 12, 2018, 11:34:23 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 12, 2018, 11:31:37 AM
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Michigan
5. Georgia
6. Oklahoma
7. Washington State
8. West Virginia
9. Ohio State
10. UCF
this is basically my exact top 10, but flip WVU and Washington State.
I was going to put Oklahoma at 5, but man, their defense is just terrible.
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« Reply #75 on: November 12, 2018, 01:26:05 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 12, 2018, 06:16:42 AM
The three undefeated P5 teams are 1-2-3 and the remaining 6 one loss teams are 4-9.  Slick.

And how much actual thought do you think goes into any of this?  Imagine one sportswriter who really spends an hour thinking about this, pondering the possibilities, and then he devises a good poll (maybe), and his vote is subsumed with 57 or so other rankings and basically disappears with a 2% impact.  Why would anyone bother?

Just line'em up, make a few tweaks, and send it in.
If this was something important to you, you'd be arguing the other way.  The argument against taking it seriously and producing your best ranking is...well nobody else does it?  Is that a message you'd send to a kid about something?  
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #76 on: November 12, 2018, 01:29:26 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 12, 2018, 06:13:23 AM
Utah State had a one TD loss to MSU first game out, and then 9 straight wins with a lot of offensive production over second tier teams.  Now, are they really better than UF, PSU, UDubb, et al.?  Probably not, and they would not be favored over teams ranked below them.

But at three losses, those teams ranked below them are also rather mediocre, it's just that this season there are a lot of 7-3 teams.  UK just lost at Tennessee and is ranked 20th.  Someone has to be.  The AP ranks two FOUR LOSS teams now.
If the teams ranked in the teens have maybe one extra loss than in previous seasons, why do we automatically suggest they're worse than in previous years?  
It's my mistake on USU going from unranked to 14, the (-) I saw is for the fact they didn't move up or down, not that they were unranked last week.
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« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2018, 01:30:01 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 12, 2018, 11:34:23 AM
this is basically my exact top 10, but flip WVU and Washington State.
I was going to put Oklahoma at 5, but man, their defense is just terrible.
Their defense is so terrible, you move them down one spot?  :88:
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2018, 01:30:44 PM »
All I know is that listing the top 3 undefeateds, then the next 6 one-loss teams, then a courtesy UCF at 10th is lazy A F.
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2018, 02:18:30 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 12, 2018, 01:30:01 PM
Their defense is so terrible, you move them down one spot?  :88:
as bad as that defense is- that offense is as great. 
I really think Oklahoma is the only team that could keep pace with Bama offensively. Problem is, even if they hang 42 on BAMA, they'd give up 55.
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2018, 05:16:26 PM »
Of course it's lazy, why would ANY sportswriter spend any real time on this?  Five minutes and done.  Round up the usual suspects.
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #81 on: November 12, 2018, 05:25:49 PM »
I'm talking about here.  We do this for leisure, for fun.  And yet many of us are slaves to the loss column.
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #82 on: November 12, 2018, 06:32:34 PM »
I know I am.  If I spend one minute on my "poll" I've gone too long.

Round up the usual suspects.
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #83 on: November 12, 2018, 08:56:32 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 12, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
I'm talking about here.  We do this for leisure, for fun.  And yet many of us are slaves to the loss column.
My poll this week had the three undefeateds and then the 6 one loss teams but that’s how I saw them this week.  I feel comfortable putting them where I have them.  I have a couple of three loss teams in front of two loss Syracuse.  Last week I had LSU in front of a couple of one loss teams.  This week their resume changed a little and they had a pretty uninspiring win so I moved them down.

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