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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2021, 07:40:00 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on January 13, 2021, 06:34:18 PM
I wouldn't take my car there.
Had to it was the dealership 
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2021, 08:54:48 PM »
Two best things about WFH
1. I can mow the lawn/do a little bit of yard work at some point during the day.  No more racing home to get it done before dark ar after dinner.
2. I can handle any repairman appt. Delivery window, you name it. 

Since WFH for all my peers,  I've never gotten more weekend or all hours email from people.  People are working when they can or a lot more than they were.  I've been remote for 12+ years.
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« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2021, 07:40:24 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on January 13, 2021, 05:47:08 PM
But the guys up in Illinois can't see it.......and it comes down when the wife gets home
It shows up in the Zoom camera.
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2021, 09:11:29 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on January 13, 2021, 08:54:48 PM
Two best things about WFH
1. I can mow the lawn/do a little bit of yard work at some point during the day.  No more racing home to get it done before dark ar after dinner.
2. I can handle any repairman appt. Delivery window, you name it.

That was a good part of it. One think I liked about the mobility was if my job was going to overflow, I could often run an errand or two and keep a phone or laptop on hand.
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2021, 09:00:48 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on January 13, 2021, 11:23:57 AM
I'm on the clock 24/7/365

there's no "training" my boss differently

my company smart phone is my leash

but,.... that's why I get paid the BIG bucks - hah!
Same here. When we go on vacation, my laptop goes with me. It drives my wife nuts. 

As for a work phone, they offered one but I refused it. Instead I use my personal phone for email and work phone. I just don't like the idea of carrying two phones everywhere I go. 
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2021, 09:13:02 AM »
Quote from: NorthernOhioBuckeye on January 15, 2021, 09:00:48 AM
Same here. When we go on vacation, my laptop goes with me. It drives my wife nuts.

As for a work phone, they offered one but I refused it. Instead I use my personal phone for email and work phone. I just don't like the idea of carrying two phones everywhere I go.
Yeah now in the days of smartphones, I just use my personal phone and I have corporate email and IM loaded onto it.

Back in the day I was among the first to have a corporate-issued Blackberry.  My friends were jealous but I named it for what it was-- "The Tether."


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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2021, 09:16:44 AM »
But again, the flexibility is helpful.  I'll take my corporate laptop on short trips, for the sake of managing the minor flare-ups before they become major ones, and generally making my life easier when I return to work officially,  if nothing else.

But if I'm going on a week-long trip to a Caribbean beach, then no, the corporate laptop stays at home and I'm officially out of office and unreachable.  That's a double-edged sword.  I can completely unplug for that week, but when I return to work it's generally a massive shitshow.

I guess they really can't go on without me... ;)

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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2021, 09:18:59 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on January 13, 2021, 08:54:48 PM
Two best things about WFH
1. I can mow the lawn/do a little bit of yard work at some point during the day.  No more racing home to get it done before dark ar after dinner.
2. I can handle any repairman appt. Delivery window, you name it.

Since WFH for all my peers,  I've never gotten more weekend or all hours email from people.  People are working when they can or a lot more than they were.  I've been remote for 12+ years.
Agree with this. I too have been working at home for about 10 years and would not trade it for going to the office daily. While I have had a couple of job offers in the past couple of years, non of them gave me the flexibility of my current job.  
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2021, 09:22:46 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 15, 2021, 09:16:44 AM
But again, the flexibility is helpful.  I'll take my corporate laptop on short trips, for the sake of managing the minor flare-ups before they become major ones, and generally making my life easier when I return to work officially,  if nothing else.

But if I'm going on a week-long trip to a Caribbean beach, then no, the corporate laptop stays at home and I'm officially out of office and unreachable.  That's a double-edged sword.  I can completely unplug for that week, but when I return to work it's generally a massive shitshow.

I guess they really can't go on without me... ;)


If I could get away without the laptop, I would. However, I am on call 24/7/365 and that includes vacation. While I do have some backup in the company, there is no one that can fix a problem that may come my way if it becomes too complex. I have tried in the past to help over the phone, but found it is much easier to just take care of it myself. 

I did at one time have someone working with me to pick up what I do, but they WFR's him a couple of years ago. I am now trying to cross train others in my group so that hopefully a day will come when I can unplug for a week and not worry about it. The problem there is that they don't have any more spare time than I do. 
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2021, 09:43:32 AM »
Quote from: NorthernOhioBuckeye on January 15, 2021, 09:22:46 AM
If I could get away without the laptop, I would. However, I am on call 24/7/365 and that includes vacation. While I do have some backup in the company, there is no one that can fix a problem that may come my way if it becomes too complex. I have tried in the past to help over the phone, but found it is much easier to just take care of it myself.

I did at one time have someone working with me to pick up what I do, but they WFR's him a couple of years ago. I am now trying to cross train others in my group so that hopefully a day will come when I can unplug for a week and not worry about it. The problem there is that they don't have any more spare time than I do.

It's really in your company's best interest to have someone that can truly back you up. What if you decided to leave the company tomorrow, or were incapacitated in some way?

The very large computer manufacturing company I work for insists on having all business critical processes thoroughly documented and also having a knowledgeable backup identified and in place for all employees with critical roles-- which is pretty much everyone when you staff as lean as we do.

As an engineer, I love the adherence to process, it keeps those unruly sales types in check. :)
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2021, 09:51:54 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 15, 2021, 09:16:44 AM
But if I'm going on a week-long trip to a Caribbean beach, then no, the corporate laptop stays at home and I'm officially out of office and unreachable.  That's a double-edged sword.  I can completely unplug for that week, but when I return to work it's generally a massive shitshow.

I guess they really can't go on without me... ;)


doesn't matter where I go.  I took my daughters on a 7-day cruise a few years ago.  Told them they had to use airplane mode on their iphones because of the costs.
the boss told me to keep mine on at all times, he'd pay the bill.
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2021, 09:52:27 AM »
In my case I had three managers/directors reporting to me

Each one was very capable and if needed could make decisions without me

I trained them to come to me with a problem as well as their suggested solution to it

If you dont make your managers stretch they will never grow and you will be chained

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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #54 on: January 15, 2021, 10:28:42 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 15, 2021, 09:43:32 AM
It's really in your company's best interest to have someone that can truly back you up. What if you decided to leave the company tomorrow, or were incapacitated in some way?

The very large computer manufacturing company I work for insists on having all business critical processes thoroughly documented and also having a knowledgeable backup identified and in place for all employees with critical roles-- which is pretty much everyone when you staff as lean as we do.

As an engineer, I love the adherence to process, it keeps those unruly sales types in check. :)
You're preaching to the choir! :)

It's really only been this way for the last 4 or 5 years when they decided to trim the workforce. Prior to that, I had 2 other's in my group that were capable and we rotated the on call duties. However, one left for a better job and the other was let go in a work force reduction. 

About 8 or 9 years ago, I was hospitalized for 2 months and for the first month, on life support. You would think after something like that, they would understand that having so much of their business dependent upon 1 person, that is not a good pathway for success. However, the bean counters are ruling the day. 
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2021, 10:54:48 AM »
Quote from: NorthernOhioBuckeye on January 15, 2021, 09:00:48 AM
Same here. When we go on vacation, my laptop goes with me. It drives my wife nuts.

As for a work phone, they offered one but I refused it. Instead I use my personal phone for email and work phone. I just don't like the idea of carrying two phones everywhere I go.
back when I started the only option was for the company phone, a few years ago they started allowing my staff to keep their personal phone and just get so much towards their phone bill.  I don't carry 2 phones, I'm allowed to use my company phone for everything.  Well, I try to keep the porn and other politically incorrect stuff off.

Hopefully, if/when I retire I'll be allowed to keep the phone and the number, just move it to my personal wireless plan.
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