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CatsbyAZ

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OT: Work Phones
« on: January 13, 2021, 10:40:00 AM »
Anyone else assigned work phones (as part of your job, obviously)? Three years ago my construction job assigned us all smartphones, which is the first smartphone I’ve had. Suspicious of carrying around internet capability all day, and thus running up the data on their “unlimited” plan, I’ve never liked it. What took me longer to figure out is that by assigning me a phone with applications linked to our email servers, my employer is tricking me into 24/7 email accessibility. “Did you see my email?” My mangers will text me - at 6AM, before asking again at 7AM when I arrive to the office – about an email sent at 8PM, that they wanted answered at 9PM. I’ve tried strategically failing expectations so that hopefully those I answer to will slowly come around to understanding I’ll answer when I’m back on the clock. I’m accustomed to taking calls into the evenings during crunch time, but for email I find it worth spending the time it takes to come up with a thoughtful, properly researched answer that those on the CC line can find helpful as well. (Sending email doesn’t translate as well by phone, especially if attachments with photos need to be created and sent.) But anyway, about 1 to 2 times/year (about a half-dozen total times now) someone higher in management will really lose it when an email goes unanswered long enough during my off hours.

Am I right to see this as a new reality of professional salary job? We’re just all expected to be mindful of work email until bedtime? Shared work phone experiences are appreciated. Really gets me guessing back to the days (the 90s?) when our employers had no way to contact us 9-to-5, non-emergency employees. When there was such a time as “off the clock.”

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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 10:48:32 AM »
Before I started working from home, I was assigned a mobile phone for being on-call (it wasn't mine, it was for any tech who was on-call for the week).  I haven't used it since like 2018.

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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 11:06:02 AM »
Anyone else assigned work phones (as part of your job, obviously)? Three years ago my construction job assigned us all smartphones, which is the first smartphone I’ve had. Suspicious of carrying around internet capability all day, and thus running up the data on their “unlimited” plan, I’ve never liked it. What took me longer to figure out is that by assigning me a phone with applications linked to our email servers, my employer is tricking me into 24/7 email accessibility. “Did you see my email?” My mangers will text me - at 6AM, before asking again at 7AM when I arrive to the office – about an email sent at 8PM, that they wanted answered at 9PM. I’ve tried strategically failing expectations so that hopefully those I answer to will slowly come around to understanding I’ll answer when I’m back on the clock. I’m accustomed to taking calls into the evenings during crunch time, but for email I find it worth spending the time it takes to come up with a thoughtful, properly researched answer that those on the CC line can find helpful as well. (Sending email doesn’t translate as well by phone, especially if attachments with photos need to be created and sent.) But anyway, about 1 to 2 times/year (about a half-dozen total times now) someone higher in management will really lose it when an email goes unanswered long enough during my off hours.

Am I right to see this as a new reality of professional salary job? We’re just all expected to be mindful of work email until bedtime? Shared work phone experiences are appreciated. Really gets me guessing back to the days (the 90s?) when our employers had no way to contact us 9-to-5, non-emergency employees. When there was such a time as “off the clock.”

You have to train your employer.  They will eventually learn your way of "being" at work and private time

I had to tell my boss that Im not a doctor and unless the FBI is raiding our offices I dont read emails after evening dinner

Hell I used to just keep my wok phone turned off after work.  This made my boss so mad he threatened to take my phone away from me but he soon realized I'd love that so he never did
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 11:13:22 AM »
So... My smartphone has a "Do Not Disturb" you can choose when to turn it on and back off.

I turn my "Do not disturb" on at 8pm and back off at 6:30am. I don't get notified with emails or texts after 8. When the boss asks, I tell them I set the phone that way to spend undisturbed quality time with my family and to rest. If they want me to work on call hours I need to be compensated for on call responsibilities.
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2021, 11:14:09 AM »
I've had one for work since probably 2010/2011.

And yes, there is no such thing as "off the clock" anymore.  It ticks my wife off.  We went to the beach this summer.  I left my phone in the condo when we were at the beach, but when we'd go up to eat, I had like 2 hours of emails to respond to.

I was technically off the last two weeks of the year, had an out of office response up, and was still getting requests, that were undeterred by my auto-response

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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2021, 11:23:57 AM »
I'm on the clock 24/7/365

there's no "training" my boss differently

my company smart phone is my leash

but,.... that's why I get paid the BIG bucks - hah!
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2021, 11:43:41 AM »
I'm on the clock 24/7/365

there's no "training" my boss differently

my company smart phone is my leash

but,.... that's why I get paid the BIG bucks - hah!
as my dad used to say everybody makes their own bed

They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2021, 12:02:46 PM »
I've obviously never had a work phone, but I don't do emails off-hours.  I only do work at home if I was unable to do it at work in a reasonable amount of time.  I do some lesson planning at home, though not often. 

I saw "work phone" and the old giant cell phone in a bag popped in my mind.  Yeah, I could see how a smart phone from work would be a sonofabitch nowadays.
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2021, 12:21:22 PM »
as my dad used to say everybody makes their own bed


yup, took this job 23 years ago and haven't found a way out yet
hah, that's how long I've been on these boards with youse folks

my new desktop had a state of the art 56K modem
back when the Huskers were good at football
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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2021, 12:25:47 PM »
I have a work phone.  I will check emails in the evening and if I think it can be answered quickly, I might answer it if only to not have it on my agenda in the morning. 

However, my company knows and actually encourages when you are off work, you are off work. 

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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2021, 12:51:21 PM »
I have a work phone.  I will check emails in the evening and if I think it can be answered quickly, I might answer it if only to not have it on my agenda in the morning.

However, my company knows and actually encourages when you are off work, you are off work.
My firm is quite fine with it...clients...

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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2021, 12:59:39 PM »
I can't remember the last time I didn't have a work-issued phone and/or laptop or where I was not expected to work during off-hours.  It's been over 20 years, that's for sure.

The flipside of that is that I have plenty of flexibility during my day/week.  I haven't actually taken sick time for a Dr. appointment for myself or my kids in years, either.  

I tend to work for an hour or so in the evenings, after the kids go to bed.  It's really in my best interest, because I can often nip something in the bud at 9 or 10 PM, that if left unmanaged, would balloon into a completely unnecessary headache overnight and make my next morning completely miserable.


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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2021, 01:08:22 PM »
I can't remember the last time I didn't have a work-issued phone and/or laptop or where I was not expected to work during off-hours.  It's been over 20 years, that's for sure.

The flipside of that is that I have plenty of flexibility during my day/week.  I haven't actually taken sick time for a Dr. appointment for myself or my kids in years, either. 

I tend to work for an hour or so in the evenings, after the kids go to bed.  It's really in my best interest, because I can often nip something in the bud at 9 or 10 PM, that if left unmanaged, would balloon into a completely unnecessary headache overnight and make my next morning completely miserable.


That's what I explained to my wife.  You know how I can also put the kids on the bus in the morning and get into the office a little late, or work from home on days I have a Dr. appt.  This is the flip side to that.

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Re: OT: Work Phones
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2021, 01:19:27 PM »
the only time after hours issues really bother me is when I'm on the golf course or during a Husker game

especially if I'm attending a Husker game
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