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The "Socratic Method" is a bit of a buzzword, but who was Socrates?
Most of what we know about Socrates (470-399 B.C) comes from the writings of his student Plato.
Socrates was perhaps the most influential of all ancient Athenians because his student Plato taught Aristotle, and Aristotle taught Alexander the Great.

Socrates was a philosopher who lived in Athens, the cultural center of Ancient Greece.
He spent his adult life training young men how to analyze their own lives, and life in general, including religion, morality, and the political systems of the world.

Socrates urged his students to “know thyself” and to question the commonly held assumptions of Athens.
The method Socrates used with his students involved asking questions.

Socrates’ questions poked holes into the philosophical ideas of his students, and forced them to reformulate their conclusions in a lively discussion.

Students were encouraged to debate honestly and to be open to losing a debate if another’s ideas were better.
Because of Socrates’ method of questioning, his students had to analyze their arguments and question their conclusions.
Often, students altered their conclusions when they realized their arguments could not stand up to questioning from Socrates.
Eventually, Athenian citizens grew angry with Socrates because he challenged young men to question the gods of Athens.

He was arrested and sentenced to death for corrupting the youth and for questioning the city’s gods.
Although he had a chance to escape, he chose instead to follow the judgment of the Athenian leaders.
By not escaping, Socrates sacrificed his life for the right to philosophize, to question authority, and to teach and speak freely.
He also showed by not escaping that it is important to respect the laws of the society one lives in, even if it means giving up your life.
Let us keep his spirit alive by teaching our children to think, speak, and write with courage, even when it is countercultural to do so.

When Helen was a lumber town... Helendorf River Inn and Conference Center, Wendy's, Bodensee, Pirate's Cove, and Festhall are now located on this property along Munich Strasse.  Part of the train bed is now the Helen to Hardman Farm Heritage paved ADA Trail across from Econolodge.  About 1/3 of the old Depot pictured remains across from Hardman Farm.
"Located on the headwaters of the Chattahoochee River at the edge of the Nacoochee Valley in White County, Helen is about sixty miles north of Athens. It emerged in the early twentieth century in what had been, a century earlier, the heart of both Cherokee and gold mining country.
The Byrd-Matthews Corporation, a timber company attracted by the area's vast virgin hardwood trees, established a major sawmill there around 1910. Shortly afterward a railroad connector linked the new town—named Helen after the daughter of a Byrd-Matthews partner—to Gainesville in the foothills to the south.
The operation thrived until the Great Depression, when most of the timber had been cut and the company and most residents moved on to more promising forests elsewhere. By the 1950s and 1960s the town was nothing more than a bleak row of concrete block structures and supported only nine businesses." (New GA Encyclopedia)
A lot has changed!
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Such a waste and crying shame.  We already had all the hardware, know-how, and experience to keep exploring the moon.  Most don't know this, but these later missions were much more elaborate and beneficial than the one that gets all the press (Apollo 11).  The last three were called J-Missions, and they carried the lunar buggy shown in the picture above.  They each stayed on the moon several days, up to 3 as I recall, and were much more science focused than the flags and footprints of the first two.  We even had two fully built Saturn V rockets that were never used (they are on display in Houston and I think Florida).  We threw it all away due to cost, then turned around and spent more money flying the stupid space shuttle for the next 30 years and insofar as I can tell, didn't really do much except go up to space and do a couple of space walks or something. 

Don't get me wrong, as an 80's kid, the space shuttle and shuttle program holds a very special place in my heart, but we should have been done with it after 10-15 years at the most. 

This is not very well known, but we had missions in the planning stages to do a manned fly-by of Venus or Mars, or both.  It was just barely possible, using Apollo-era hardware, to send a crew of 2.  Can you imagine doing this in the 1970's? 

This something we are missing as a country.  I grew up with the space race.  I could name all the astronauts. Had the models of all the different rockets.  The whole race to the moon was something that brought the country together.  A sense of national pride. I wonder what gets kids excited these days, what causes them to dream.  Like I said I think we are missing something like this to inspire