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Topic: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska

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OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« on: July 26, 2022, 10:11:15 AM »
The resumes:

1991 Florida State (11-2)
  • Preseason #1, won first 10 games until losing to #2 Miami in Wide Right I
  • Lost the following week at #5 Florida
  • Beat #9 Texas A&M in the Cotton Bowl for their third win over a top 10 team, beating #3 Michigan and #10 Syracuse earlier in the season
  • All-Americans: CB Terrell Buckley (unanimous), LB Marvin Jones (consensus), QB Casey Weldon, RB Amp Lee


1996 Nebraska (11-2)
  • Shut out in Week 2 by #17 Arizona State, to snap 26 game overall winning streak, and 37 game regular season, dating back to November 14, 1992
  • Beat #16 Kansas State by 36, and #5 Colorado
  • Upset by Texas in the inaugural Big XII Championship Game
  • Beat #10 Virginia Tech 41-21 in the Orange Bowl
  • #9 S&P+ team of the 90s
  • All-Americans: OC Aaron Taylor (consensus), DE Grant Wistrom (consensus), OG Chris Dishman, DE Jared Tomich
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2022, 10:33:05 AM »
I'm going with the Seminoles here.

I think I said this last time this Nebraska team was under consideration but I believe that 1996 Nebraska is somewhat overrated based on chronological proximity to really great Nebraska teams that won NC's in 1994, 1995, and 1997. The 1996 team was not the equal of those.

1996 Nebraska lost badly to a team that finished #4 and by 10 to a team that finished 8-5 and barely ranked. 1991 FSU lost by a combined six points to that year's NC and a team that finished #7.
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2022, 11:16:58 AM »
I went FSU, but by mid-season the 96 Huskers were very close to the 97 team

starting a new QB in Tempe and being very overconfident was a disaster
the Longhorn upset is unexplained unless you believe in which-craft and curses
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2022, 11:36:14 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 26, 2022, 11:16:58 AM
I went FSU, but by mid-season the 96 Huskers were very close to the 97 team

starting a new QB in Tempe and being very overconfident was a disaster
the Longhorn upset is unexplained unless you believe in which-craft and curses

'96 Longhorns were an extremely talented team, but just had very... "uneven"... coaching.  Priest Holmes and Ricky Williams in the same backfield, that's no joke.

Mackovic got that B12 CCG right. He got a lot of other things wrong.

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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2022, 11:43:06 AM »
the 4th down pass was right because it worked
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2022, 11:55:09 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 26, 2022, 11:43:06 AM
the 4th down pass was right because it worked
Outgaining the Huskers 503 yards to 398 yards is what worked.
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2022, 12:21:46 PM »
seemed like 100 of it was that derned 4th down pass
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2022, 12:26:36 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 26, 2022, 12:21:46 PM
seemed like 100 of it was that derned 4th down pass
It was a decent percentage of 100 yards, for sure.

And I'm not saying that 96 Texas was most assuredly better than 96 NU (despite the H2H win), I'm just saying that nobody should be surprised that a team as talented as 96 Texas could win that game, as long as the coaches did a better-than-usual job.  Which they did.

As you say, the 96 Huskers were firing on all cylinders by the end of the year, and Texas still managed to beat them.  That was a seriously talented Texas team that, every now and then, had some not-horrible coaching to go alongside.

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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2022, 01:14:18 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 26, 2022, 12:26:36 PM
It was a decent percentage of 100 yards, for sure.

And I'm not saying that 96 Texas was most assuredly better than 96 NU (despite the H2H win), I'm just saying that nobody should be surprised that a team as talented as 96 Texas could win that game, as long as the coaches did a better-than-usual job.  Which they did.



Yes, everyone should be surprised when a 7-4 team beats a 10-1 team, especially when it's for a conference title and a possible NC.  
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2022, 01:14:49 PM »
I'm certain Osborne tried to get the message across to his players that Texas was very talented and capable of beating them.  I doubt they listened 

The team in Tempe earlier in the season was talented as well, going on to finish #4 after giving the Buckeyes all they wanted in the Rose.  But, ranked #17 to begin the season
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2022, 01:25:55 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 26, 2022, 01:14:18 PM
Yes, everyone should be surprised when a 7-4 team beats a 10-1 team, especially when it's for a conference title and a possible NC. 
People who don't understand nuance or matchups are certainly surprised when such things happen.  People who only approach things superficially are surprised when such things happen. Stupid people are surprised when such things happen. 
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2022, 01:54:13 PM »
not everyone????
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2022, 02:09:03 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 26, 2022, 01:54:13 PM
not everyone????

I'm trying not to assume that EVERYONE is stupid.   Although perhaps that's just wishful thinking...
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 1991 Florida State vs. 1996 Nebraska
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2022, 02:12:11 PM »
well, there's a large number of UT-Austin graduates out wandering about

they can't ALL be stupid, but many Aggies might disagree
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