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Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
« Reply #1932 on: June 16, 2026, 06:28:05 PM »
aka people respond poorly to having their BS called out  :57:
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« Reply #1933 on: June 16, 2026, 06:54:40 PM »
You're a disgusting hoarder. 
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« Reply #1934 on: June 16, 2026, 07:51:41 PM »
And never have I seen boomers who didn't care greatly about the broader community, or "hoarded" their "wealth."

Those things are just garbage.  Kind of the opposite of the truth from what the data suggests and what I have seen.
Very few people of any generation have enough wealth that trying to hang on to it could ever be described as "hoarding". 

But there are other things... For example, buying a single family home and then suddenly becoming a NIMBY opposing further local development because you don't want to "change the character of your community". It's 100% rational. It's actually quite rational, because if that development lowers your property values, why in the HELL would you vote for it? 

But it ends up restricting supply, leading to overall real estate value inflation, and screws the generation(s) behind you. It's an individually rational decision that, writ large across the entire real estate market, slowly makes it more and more difficult for those behind you to have the same opportunities you had. 

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« Reply #1935 on: June 16, 2026, 08:03:32 PM »
Lulz. Your panties are in a wad.
and soiled and no one wants him on the merry-go-round on recess either
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Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
« Reply #1936 on: June 16, 2026, 08:04:33 PM »
Very few people of any generation have enough wealth that trying to hang on to it could ever be described as "hoarding".

But there are other things... For example, buying a single family home and then suddenly becoming a NIMBY opposing further local development because you don't want to "change the character of your community". It's 100% rational. It's actually quite rational, because if that development lowers your property values, why in the HELL would you vote for it?

But it ends up restricting supply, leading to overall real estate value inflation, and screws the generation(s) behind you. It's an individually rational decision that, writ large across the entire real estate market, slowly makes it more and more difficult for those behind you to have the same opportunities you had.

And not at all tied to, or unique to Boomers. 
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« Reply #1937 on: June 16, 2026, 09:47:44 PM »


And never have I seen boomers who didn't care greatly about the broader community, or "hoarded" their "wealth."



.  Guess I am a selfish boomer actually spending what I and my wife worked hard for.

Jesus actual Christ, guys.  IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU INDIVIDUALLY.  What is wrong with your understanding about the larger picture vs your personal anecdotes?!?  You're completely oblivious.  
Do better.  Try.  Unreal.  It's like I could talk about the waves of the ocean and you respond with how calm your swimming pool is.  
Idk.  Damn.  I can't help you see what's obvious.  
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Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
« Reply #1938 on: June 16, 2026, 09:49:31 PM »
Most of us here are just not that bright and do have trouble seeing the trees in the swimming pool…

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« Reply #1939 on: June 16, 2026, 10:33:17 PM »
Dad was ‘43, so technically not a boomer. Mom was ‘47, her dad (my grandad) was a WWII soldier, so right at the beginning of the baby boom. 

My impression of the boomer generation is that there is just so much about the world that they just don’t understand. They lived and grew up in an era where the United States was the unquestioned Top Dog. We won the Big World Wars, both of them, then helped rebuild Europe.  Every thing was built here. Every single thing. Appliances, TVs , cars, airplanes, engines, ships, machinery, literally everything. They did not have to compete with the world, because the vast majority of the world was destroyed and it took decades after WWII to rebuild. I still remember the backlash in the early 80’s when Japanese cars just started to get popular. 

It’s not that they got successful and pulled the ladder up behind them. The world just changed, and they don’t understand. They played the game by the rules that society created and a lot of them won big. 

Who was in charge of the world when pensions were cut, factories moved overseas, wages stagnated, etc?  Not boomers for the most part. Much of that was being driven by the Silent Generation. But it really doesn’t matter who was in charge, the math works out the same way, the results would be the same. 

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« Reply #1940 on: June 16, 2026, 10:38:06 PM »
But also, many boomers grew up very modestly, or to put it bluntly, poor. 

There were no food stamps, SNAP, Medicare or Medicaid, Section 8, student loans, Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Credit cards were not things either. 

There was a lot of hard work. I can clearly recall going over to someone’s house with boomer parents and they literally built their home themselves.  Like sawed the wood and nailed it together themselves. These were not fancy homes, but they were solid and people raised their families there. 

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« Reply #1941 on: June 16, 2026, 10:56:33 PM »
I can only draw on my experiences, but I can’t recall any of our family friends, extended family, or friends family or anyone that would be a boomer that went to college. Actually, there is one cousin of my moms who was a chemical engineer that was highly successful, working for the same company I work for. He’s literally the only person in my entire extended family of the boomer age that went to college. 

That being said, everyone was encouraged to go to college. It was harped constantly throughout childhood and adolescence. College was the true path to success. 

And truthfully, in the mid to late nineties, college was still shockingly affordable. I think my last semester at A&M the tuition was something like $1,600, and this was 2000. My sons at SHSU was close to $5,500.

I told my son straight up, that college is probably not worth it if you have to take out loans to pay it. He’s got a decent job, but we both agree that starting adulthood $50-100k in debt would be crushing. Anything over $20-30k really would be a massive drag. 

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« Reply #1942 on: June 16, 2026, 11:02:56 PM »
One thing I’ve tried to teach my kids is to be careful of advice given by the previous generations, because they’re giving advice for something that worked 20-30 years ago. I probably had much longer, deeper conversations with my father in law than with my dad. And he gave me some good advice and guidance, and terrible advice and guidance as well.  It’s not that it was wrong, it’s just that it was outdated. 

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« Reply #1943 on: June 16, 2026, 11:32:51 PM »
each generation does what they think is best at the time

they give their children the best advice and hope for the best

the unique thing about the boomers is that they had numbers

if that is what bothers some folks today, glory be,........... the boomers are dying and won't be in charge for much longer

good luck to the younger generations
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« Reply #1944 on: Today at 07:24:04 AM »
My grandfather was born in 1878 one my dad’s side, the other in 1901, a generation apart in effect.

My great grandmother was born in 1857 and passed in 1959.  My dad lived in a very different world and of course was I. wW 2.  He told me he saw his first car when he was 7 or 8.  There were no roads of any quality through the mountains until then.

His sisters were naMED Grappel and Desma.   I guess I’m a Boomer, but we’re all different of course.   

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« Reply #1945 on: Today at 08:25:21 AM »
My wife worked for a large health care company for 38 years and has a very nice pension.

They stopped pensions about 5 years after she started so she is one of the lucky ones, I guess.
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