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847badgerfan

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Ole Miss
« on: November 30, 2017, 01:11:47 PM »
Sounds like they are going to get their ruling tomorrow from the NCAA. On a Friday. On the day the CCG's start and into the weekend.

Something tells me they are going to get off easy, and that the NCAA hopes to slip this in before all the real stories of the weekend unfold.

That's what lots of pro and NCAA schools do. Release news on a Friday so nobody notices. Hmmm...

Any thoughts here?
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2017, 01:19:54 PM »
Lol just posted something on this in the M offseason thread.

I tend to think they'll get hit harder than they should. They aren't a money maker for NCAA. They protect the money makers. They show their teeth only when dealing with nobodies.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2017, 01:20:41 PM »
that's good speculation in my opinion.   I'll admit I'm very foggy at recalling what actually happened at OleMiss. 

Bad news is leaked by every industry on Friday afternoon.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2017, 01:25:11 PM »
After the Miami and UNC rulings, Ole Miss is going to get nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

After PSU 5 years ago, the days of dropping the hammer are long over.  Cheat at will.  

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2017, 01:25:43 PM »
that's good speculation in my opinion.   I'll admit I'm very foggy at recalling what actually happened at OleMiss.  

Bad news is leaked by every industry on Friday afternoon.
Much of the country would think of any good news for Ole Miss as being bad news. That's why I'm suspicious.

A coach was fired already. Lack of institutional control levied as a charge. 20-25 major violations. And now the ruling is supposedly coming out on a Friday? Before the conference championship weekend?
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2017, 01:34:18 PM »
After the Miami and UNC rulings, Ole Miss is going to get nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

After PSU 5 years ago, the days of dropping the hammer are long over.  Cheat at will.  
Miami football and UNC basketball are kind of a big deal. NCAA weren't going to smash them. Ole Miss football? Ole Miss anything? No one cares. 
NCAA over-stepped its bounds with Penn State. Not sure PSU broke any NCAA academic or recruiting or improper benefits laws. But in grand scheme of things PSU got off light. Federal govt should've went in there thrown Paterno in prison and shut that program down for eternity. 

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2017, 01:47:40 PM »
My GUESS is an added year bowl ban and further scholarship reductions, which in the scheme of things is not really much.

The UNC thing was rather fascinating to me, but obviously somewhat unique in more recent history.

I don't even know how Miami got penalized.  Some folks were saying death penalty way back when.  Nope.


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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2017, 01:48:36 PM »
The only sanctions the NCAA has handed down in recent years with any teeth, were then almost immediately done away with based on nothing other than the fear of a lawsuit.

I'll believe any more actual punishments are coming when I see it.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2017, 01:49:59 PM »
Lol just posted something on this in the M offseason thread.

I tend to think they'll get hit harder than they should. They aren't a money maker for NCAA. They protect the money makers. They show their teeth only when dealing with nobodies.
Heh!

There's an old joke that goes something like this:

NCAA OFFICIAL: What?  (Helmet School) has been paying its recruits?!  Add four more years to UNLV's probation!
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2017, 03:45:52 PM »
NCAA over-stepped its bounds with Penn State. Not sure PSU broke any NCAA academic or recruiting or improper benefits laws. But in grand scheme of things PSU got off light. Federal govt should've went in there thrown Paterno in prison and shut that program down for eternity.
Fair enough to say that they should have thrown Paterno and anyone else involved in jail, but they probably couldn't really do anything to shut down the athletic program. You can't throw a football program in jail, only the people who broke laws.

Kinda like what you see with all this basketball stuff. They are investigating shoe companies, coaches, recruits, but the "crime" they are investigating is fraud against the universities, where the universities effectively the wronged party. The crime is fraud and various interstate commerce, money laundering, etc type things. They can't go after the parties for "recruiting violations" just as the NCAA can't throw anyone in jail for criminal activity. 

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2017, 04:22:34 PM »
Heh!

There's an old joke that goes something like this:

NCAA OFFICIAL: What?  (Helmet School) has been paying its recruits?!  Add four more years to UNLV's probation!
it's funny, and in this climate maybe accurate.
but old ncaa had no qualms about hitting the big boys. bama, usc, psu and osu can attest to that, and that's just last 15 years.
not saying some or all weren't deserved.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2017, 04:47:27 PM »
Heh!

There's an old joke that goes something like this:

NCAA OFFICIAL: What?  (Helmet School) has been paying its recruits?!  Add four more years to UNLV's probation!
The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky theyre going to give Cleveland State another year of probation. - Jerry Tarkanian
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2017, 05:21:03 PM »
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2017, 08:15:05 PM »
The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky theyre going to give Cleveland State another year of probation. - Jerry Tarkanian
That's it!

Thanks for the catch, Mr. Nubbz.
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