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ELA

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2017, 11:48:27 AM »
It's actually a little bit stricter than I assumed they'd get.  I don't think it's that bad overall, considering what the trend had been recently.

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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2017, 12:07:59 PM »
A bowl ban for a team that ain't gonna make a bowl ain't a bowl ban. It's lipstick on a pig.

No offense to pigs meant.


And what about Hugh Freeze? What is his show-cause? Or did he already get that?
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2017, 12:10:54 PM »
Apparently he did not get a show/cause but rather a 1 year suspension from head coaching.  So he could be hired as a coordinator.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2017, 12:14:21 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 01, 2017, 12:10:54 PM
Apparently he did not get a show/cause but rather a 1 year suspension from head coaching.  So he could be hired as a coordinator.
Considering the only thing he ever did at Ole Miss was cheat to add 5*s and make them pretty good, but not great, not sure who'd hire him
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2017, 12:42:54 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 01, 2017, 10:59:21 AM
wow I read that wrong. NCAA just added 1 year to the already self-imposed 1 year ban Ole Miss did for this year.

That means guys like QB Shea Patterson- who is a true sophomore can't transfer without sitting a year. Because the bowl ban is only an additional year- only guys that can transfer without having to sit a year are Jr's and RS Jr's. Everyone else- true frosh, RS frosh, true soph, RS soph....has to sit a year if they intend to transfer.

stupid bowl ban/eligibility rule IMO. If team gets hit by NCAA sanctions and player wasn't involved in putting that team on sanctions- he should be allowed to move without having to sit, no matter his eligibility and the length of a bowl ban.
agree with that last part.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2017, 12:46:14 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 01, 2017, 12:14:21 PM
Considering the only thing he ever did at Ole Miss was cheat to add 5*s and make them pretty good, but not great, not sure who'd hire him
yeah, pretty sure he was a high school coach with no college coaching experience and they hired him solely to be a recruiter. I don't think any other college would want him for his coaching ability. Definitely not going to want him for his recruiting ability- seeing as how he just got Ole Miss on NCAA sanctions precisely because of his recruiting.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2017, 01:03:39 PM »
yup, the bowl ban is meaningless if enough schollies are taken that a bowl is unreachable

which is how it should be
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2017, 01:37:06 PM »
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2017, 02:22:57 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on November 30, 2017, 03:45:52 PM
Fair enough to say that they should have thrown Paterno and anyone else involved in jail, but they probably couldn't really do anything to shut down the athletic program. You can't throw a football program in jail, only the people who broke laws.

Kinda like what you see with all this basketball stuff. They are investigating shoe companies, coaches, recruits, but the "crime" they are investigating is fraud against the universities, where the universities effectively the wronged party. The crime is fraud and various interstate commerce, money laundering, etc type things. They can't go after the parties for "recruiting violations" just as the NCAA can't throw anyone in jail for criminal activity.
The thing is, there is no evidence that Paterno broke any laws.  He reported what he was told to his superiors.  The law has been changed since then, but he did what he was legally bound to do.  Yes, he should have done more.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2017, 02:32:17 PM »
Quote from: Geolion91 on December 01, 2017, 02:22:57 PM
The thing is, there is no evidence that Paterno broke any laws.  He reported what he was told to his superiors.  The law has been changed since then, but he did what he was legally bound to do.  Yes, he should have done more.
He also fired the criminal from his staff after the 1999 season, and I always wondered why, until the shit hit the fan.

I still can't believe I broke bread with that guy. I even talked to him about how I always thought he'd be the next coach. Now I know why he shrugged his shoulders.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2017, 02:40:32 PM »
Quote from: Geolion91 on December 01, 2017, 02:22:57 PM
The thing is, there is no evidence that Paterno broke any laws.  He reported what he was told to his superiors.  The law has been changed since then, but he did what he was legally bound to do.  Yes, he should have done more.
understatement of the century?
McQueary: "hey joe, this guy was molesting a child"
JoePa: "Ok, let me go tell my boss about it"
He was the most powerful guy at Penn State back then. He had "bosses" like Harbaugh has a "boss" right now. He should've reported it to the police himself right away, should've tried to find out who the kid was and met him and got the kid help, and he should've banned that sick bastard from ever setting foot on campus.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2017, 02:45:05 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 01, 2017, 02:32:17 PM
He also fired the criminal from his staff after the 1999 season, and I always wondered why, until the crap hit the fan.

I still can't believe I broke bread with that guy. I even talked to him about how I always thought he'd be the next coach. Now I know why he shrugged his shoulders.
not buying that he was even fired. Because if that was the case, then why'd he give him that cushy retirement package, almost $200,000 extra they didn't have to give him, and give him emeritus status and access to the use all the facilities and come and go if he pleases if he was fired for that?
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2017, 02:50:14 PM »
Ole Miss chancellor holds a press conference. Says the NCAA bowl ban is unacceptable. Jesus. The balls on these people.
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Re: Ole Miss
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2017, 02:52:08 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 01, 2017, 02:45:05 PM
not buying that he was even fired. Because if that was the case, then why'd he give him that cushy retirement package, almost $200,000 extra they didn't have to give him, and give him emeritus status and access to the use all the facilities and come and go if he pleases if he was fired for that?
Probably the wrong word for this one. "Removed" would have been better. Fired is what should have happened.
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