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Topic: Odds we have a football season poll

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CatsbyAZ

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #798 on: August 25, 2020, 09:08:03 AM »

https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1297975709000925189?s=19


...Kevin Warren is having right now with more than 100 Big Ten athletes, coaches and administrators was a regularly scheduled call for the league's Anti-Hate and Anti-Racism Coalition.”

Was there any discussion anything about the aborted football season? At this point pessimism is getting the best of me, but is Kevin Warren’s salary for his oversight of an athletic conference or more for addressing the week’s latest outcry on twitter?

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #799 on: August 25, 2020, 01:06:38 PM »

...Kevin Warren is having right now with more than 100 Big Ten athletes, coaches and administrators was a regularly scheduled call for the league's Anti-Hate and Anti-Racism Coalition.”

Was there any discussion anything about the aborted football season? At this point pessimism is getting the best of me, but is Kevin Warren’s salary for his oversight of an athletic conference or more for addressing the week’s latest outcry on twitter?

Technically, the push from the parents and coaches is this week's Twitter outcry. The anti-hate/anti-racism like 3-4 weeks ago. 

The Big Ten is also a glacially moving institution, as we might expect. 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #800 on: August 25, 2020, 02:46:30 PM »
So the Ivy League, the Big Ten, and Vanderbilt aren't in on this.  And it's a bad idea? 

Call me intellectually elitist all you want, but I'm siding with them.

There's Afro mis-representing facts again.

"Vandy has suspended practice on Friday for a small outbreak, and is eager to resume practice once protocols are met."

"Yep dee done canceled duh season cause 16 undergrads hearts exploded while sniffing duh corona." Afro Probably 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #801 on: August 25, 2020, 02:54:33 PM »
With the coming out of Iowa State's new policy of hitting students with conduct violations for gatherings both on- and off-campus, I think it is time to hold the university accountable for its own feckless nature.

Iowa State, as well as many other universities, have engaged in hypocritical behavior by hosting all of its normal events with barely a thought about the ramifications. It is unfair that Iowa State holds all of its sponsored events without any real change to its structures and then immediately chastises students for attending them. It is hypocritical that Iowa State still holds campus-wide events that endanger the health of everyone but then immediately attack the students for following their lead.

We are in constant threat of having classes pushed to an online-only format if COVID-19 gets too out of hand, but all Iowa State does about it is send a daily link to a Qualtrics survey about our immediate health with three options of sick, still sick or healthy and shames the students for acting in the same manner as the university. The stressfulness of a threat looming over the student body is clearly not a deterrent to engage in healthy behavior.

With all that in mind, Iowa State should practice what it preaches. Restructure classes in a way that promotes safety rather than the faux “wear a mask but sit one foot away from four other students in this lecture hall filled with 75 students.” Restructure events in a way that reduces transmissions of COVID-19 or cancel university events. Students will, to some degree at least, follow the example set by the university. If the university does not hold events and does not promote large social events on campus grounds, students will likely follow suit and not hold their own large social events off campus grounds. Students will rise to the expectations the university sets as long as Iowa State follows their own expectations.


https://www.iowastatedaily.com/opinion/letters/opinion-letter-omar-waheed-isu-needs-to-be-held-accounable/article_1a3f5710-e635-11ea-aa7e-2f8399ba3bb5.html
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #802 on: August 25, 2020, 03:21:22 PM »
The difference: 


  • Iowa State makes a lot of tuition money cramming students into class. 
  • Iowa State makes zero money when students go to parties.


So they'll expect students to take the risk when it makes them money, and expect students to take no risks when it doesn't.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #803 on: August 25, 2020, 03:22:27 PM »
therefore, feckless nature
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #804 on: August 25, 2020, 04:54:58 PM »
Over the last several weeks the number-one, hot-button, send-Max-Kellerman-through-the-First-Take-studio-ceiling debate in sports has been whether or not we, as a nation, should play college football this fall. The Big 10, Big East, Pac-12, MAC, Mountain West, and Ivy League have all already bowed out, leaving just the SEC, Big 12, and AAC to carry on. They have all been adamant that they WILL PLAY FOOTBALL, COME HELL, HIGH WATER, OR A FEW PESKY SNOWFLAKES, but as students have returned to campuses in recent days, well, let’s just say the early returns haven’t been good.

North Carolina gave the whole back-to-school thing a college try, but after seeing their positive test rate jump from 2.8% to 13.6%—including 177 isolations—in less that two weeks, they promptly moved all classes online. On Tuesday, the University of Miami reported 141 new cases, which pales in comparison to the neighbors up 95, UCF, who have so far tallied 438 cases of their own. But in the world of college football, Alabama is and remains the grandaddy of them all, a dominance that apparently extends to the pandemic gridiron as well, with the Crimson Tide confirming 531 positive COVID-19 tests since classes resumed LAST WEEK.

566-141. Even without football, Alabama is still blowing teams out.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #805 on: August 25, 2020, 05:04:06 PM »
566-141. Even without football, Alabama is still blowing teams out.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #806 on: August 26, 2020, 01:28:04 AM »
Iowa has high school football without increased testing of players.

Our local 3-A team (West Delaware) is filled with returnees, and blew out its first opponent, Anamosa, 66-0 August 21. That has to be the earliest start for high school football in Iowa, ever.

Down the Hwy from us is Dyersville Beckman, a 1-A team. They just canceled their opener for Aug. 28 against Iowa City Regina due to a coach and player testing positive for COVID-19 and several players quarantining. They are optimistic about playing Friday Sept. 4. Well, if so many of the players cannot practice this week, and I am thinking more will have the virus, how will they be in shape to play Sept. 4? We will see. Beckman also has a few volleyball players quarantining due to contact with someone with COVID-19.

Iowa City Regina put out a tweet saying looking for an opponent for Sept. 28.

Belmond Klemme HS has multiple players out with COVID-19, so their game with West Fork is canceled. West Fork is single A, actually a division below 1-A in Iowa. They could play Iowa City Regina, which is a dominant 1-A football program coached by Marv Cook, former Iowa tight end, and NFL player, ranked #1 in 1-A. But will they agree to be a sacrificial lamb?

I know none of you care about Iowa high school football. There are over 300 high schools and so far only four have no games this Friday because two teams have players testing positive, And, again, there is no enhanced testing, so how many more have it we don't know. It is an interesting experiment. The big money teams of the Big Ten should watch carefully to see how low budget football plays out.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #807 on: August 26, 2020, 08:40:35 AM »
I care a little
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #808 on: August 26, 2020, 08:40:57 AM »
The likelihood of those “what-ifs” could have been significantly reduced if the presidents had been prescient enough to check early and often which of their schools were having success managing the virus. Which ones had protocols that made the most sense? Nebraska’s sure worked well. Why didn’t Warren and the presidents mandate in early July that all schools must use Nebraska’s successful protocol? This would have provided more consistency in messaging to the member schools and likely could have avoided some troublesome outbreaks. For the Council of Presidents and Chancellors to use a “lack of reliable testing” as a reason to cancel, even after neglecting to mandate a single highly effective protocol for all Big Ten schools, is breathtaking hypocrisy.

The health and humanity argument is a standoff. As for the rest of the evidence, it shows that the best and brightest of the Big Ten decided to inflict tremendous financial and human damage on athletic departments and cities in exchange for not having to worry about a multimillion-dollar lawsuit. Their “not my problem” attitude is deeply troubling.


https://www.huskermax.com/stryker-big-ten-cancellation-stinks-worse-2-weeks-later/
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #810 on: August 26, 2020, 12:47:32 PM »
Bill Moos is holding out hope that an autumn “spring game” will be allowed, and he says the postponed season is likely to consist of no more than seven or eight games.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #811 on: August 26, 2020, 12:59:37 PM »
Bill Moos is holding out hope that an autumn “spring game” will be allowed, and he says the postponed season is likely to consist of no more than seven or eight games.
That could well be more games than the official fall season ends up with.
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