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Topic: Odds we have a football season poll

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #574 on: August 17, 2020, 01:20:47 PM »
Difficult to rule it out.  There was a spin going into the season that the evil administrators were going to make the kids play to make money.  So actions by the players to protections certainly fit into that spin.  But perhaps that spin was off.  Everything is kind of a huge pain in the ass right now, and the evil administrators are trying to figure out how to have college at all, much less college football.  So with the kids not wanting to play and the administrators wanting to avoid a huge headache, they just call the season.  But they haven't been transparent, and clearly not everyone is on board.
That's always been the sticking point IMHO. How can you claim it's safe for athletes to compete on the field if you don't think it's safe enough for students to be on campus and go to in-person CLASS safely? 

I think that was always going to be a PR sticking point. Especially if something severe happened to an athlete. It was just set up for a PR nightmare, when you see a player hospitalized and all non-athletes are 100% online learning. 

The other question would be what guidelines would be in place for canceling games if there was an "outbreak"--how many players testing positive constitutes a reason for the team itself to avoid competing at all. 1? Let's say a wide receiver tests positive. Do you quarantine all the wide receivers who have been in the same room, watching the same film, practicing together? Hard to put a team on the field if you don't have any WR available, right?

I just find it hard to understand how 100-player rosters, especially college students who aren't exactly the best about making good decisions, will be able to avoid infections well enough that we'd get more than 2-3 games in anyway before it was scrapped.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #576 on: August 17, 2020, 04:15:01 PM »

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #577 on: August 17, 2020, 09:49:31 PM »
UNC can no longer claim to be a good school.  In-person learning?  Seriously?  

I lack the vocabulary to properly describe that one.  Unreal.  Who could have predicted an outbreak?!?  Higher learning my ass.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #578 on: August 17, 2020, 09:55:55 PM »
administrators aren't ALWAYS the smartest people in the room
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #579 on: August 17, 2020, 10:36:02 PM »
On Monday night, Bill Rabinowitz of the Columbus Dispatch revealed that at least one lawyer with experience in the college football realm thinks there may be time for the Big Ten to reverse its decision. While there’s no guarantee that the league would finish a full season, players and parents could make enough noise needed to at least get things started.

“An attorney I respect who long worked inside college football programs predicts that the pressure from parents, players and some schools will result in Big Ten reconsidering its cancellation of fall sports. COVID-19 might force re-cancellation but expects a second chance,” Rabinowitz tweeted on Monday.

The real key in all this comes down to liability waivers. If the Big Ten can figure that out, and if better testing becomes widely available in the near future, the anonymous lawyer thinks the league could make a 2020 season happen.

“The lawyer - not Tom Mars - said if waiver liability is, well, waived, that would be a big development,” Rabinoitz wrote in a second tweet. “The new saliva-based COVID-19 test also could be a big step toward a second look.”
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #580 on: August 17, 2020, 11:01:05 PM »
Betcha it's Maximum Sam he's slings jurisprudence in that neck of the woods
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #581 on: August 18, 2020, 06:37:14 AM »
Betcha it's Maximum Sam he's slings jurisprudence in that neck of the woods
Though that would require someone to respect me

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #582 on: August 18, 2020, 08:02:23 AM »
Making the twitter rounds; B1G Office has drafted a letter to reinstate Fall Athletics (with liability waiver and saliva testing,) just need to get the presidents on board. 

This could happen.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #583 on: August 18, 2020, 08:02:32 AM »
I think the issue with having a season is more about the students in general than the players, who can be somewhat protected.  Players live in isolation to a degree, and can sign up for on line courses in many places, or get special approval to take "Consumer Economics 101" on line.

But, the students are going to student.  And that UNC outbreak is apparently unavoidable, I'm not sure I'd expect ANY campus doing that not to break out in 2-3 weeks.  

So, then R naught goes way up and players catch it by being out and about and teams lose significant players to it and ....

If we're talking pros, it is different, and even there there have been outbreaks, and false positives.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #584 on: August 18, 2020, 08:03:17 AM »
Making the twitter rounds; B1G Office has drafted a letter to reinstate Fall Athletics (with liability waiver and saliva testing,) just need to get the presidents on board.

This could happen.
Could be wishful rumoring, and they'd look like complete fools if they change this and then do a UNC.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #585 on: August 18, 2020, 09:34:24 AM »
that's what afro is hoping for
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #586 on: August 18, 2020, 10:06:03 AM »
Making the twitter rounds; B1G Office has drafted a letter to reinstate Fall Athletics (with liability waiver and saliva testing,) just need to get the presidents on board.

This could happen.
I've said from the start that schools that have any semblance of in-person learning won't last a month. Look at UNC and the public schools in Georgia that went back wholesale. The B1G presidents would do well to stick to their guns.

I'd love to be totally wrong, though. 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #587 on: August 18, 2020, 10:09:15 AM »
What Fro is rooting for is for all of the non-SEC Conferences to pull the plug first. After that, he wants the SEC schools to throw in the towel one at a time, until Florida is the last team standing. That way he can claim a NC, because everyone else forfeit.
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