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TyphonInc · « **Reply #420 on:** August 13, 2020, 03:54:15 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 13, 2020, 03:22:58 PM

I don’t think it’s that “ far fetched”. Not so much a civil war analogy as much as a political one. Let’s be truthful - everything related to the pandemic has been politicized much to our dismay. You could have easily predicted that the conferences based in the north in the far west would be the ones most likely to bow out and the ones based in the South would opt to try to play

you could also make a valid argument that leaves Ohio State has the most vulnerable school from a recruiting standpoint given that they have the current top rank class and are considered the standard bearer for the Big Ten. It’s already happening many schools are already coming after their big recruits.

https://lettermenrow.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/ohio-state-recruiting-ryan-day-cancelled-2021-two-seasons-freshmen-class/

As an OSU(B1G/Pac) recruit why do you stay? You can't play here, but you can get prepared for the NFL just as well at Clemson or Alabama, or the south. I expect all 4 and 5 star recruits in the Pac and B1G to go where they can play.

Showing my personal perspective here, but I think the B1G really screwed the pooch here in canceling without making sure the SEC was on board with canceling also.

FearlessF · « **Reply #421 on:** August 13, 2020, 03:55:46 PM »

the B1G really screwed the pooch here in canceling without waiting for more information

easily could have kicked the can down the road a couple weeks

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #422 on:** August 13, 2020, 03:57:03 PM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 13, 2020, 03:28:15 PM

Yeah, see, you typed it all out. I just shared the initial thought. Same difference.

You know, if you spent a little more typing your reasoning rather than saying "See? The Civil War states want to play football! Isn't that interesting and somehow relevant???" perhaps we might have understood where you were going with it.

As it stands, I don't for a SECOND believe that your rationale was what @Honestbuckeye posted.

FearlessF · « **Reply #423 on:** August 13, 2020, 03:57:46 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 13, 2020, 03:22:58 PM

I don’t think it’s that “ far fetched”. Not so much a civil war analogy as much as a political one. Let’s be truthful - everything related to the pandemic has been politicized much to our dismay. You could have easily predicted that the conferences based in the north in the far west would be the ones most likely to bow out and the ones based in the South would opt to try to play

Nebraska the strange outlier here

solid Blue northern state - wants to play football w/o masks

FearlessF · « **Reply #424 on:** August 13, 2020, 03:58:46 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on August 13, 2020, 03:57:03 PM

You know, if you spent a little more typing your reasoning rather than saying "See? The Civil War states want to play football! Isn't that interesting and somehow relevant???" perhaps we might have understood where you were going with it.

As it stands, I don't for a SECOND believe that your rationale was what @Honestbuckeye posted.

could ya find it in your heart to give the dude the benefit of the doubt?

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #425 on:** August 13, 2020, 04:09:08 PM »

Quote from: TyphonInc on August 13, 2020, 03:54:15 PM

As an OSU(B1G/Pac) recruit why do you stay? You can't play here, but you can get prepared for the NFL just as well at Clemson or Alabama, or the south. I expect all 4 and 5 star recruits in the Pac and B1G to go where they can play.

Showing my personal perspective here, but I think the B1G really screwed the pooch here in canceling without making sure the SEC was on board with canceling also.

I doubt it's a big thing... All the 2020 guys are already on campus, signed their LOI, and would need to enter the transfer portal.

All the 2021 guys aren't thinking this will affect their PT much. Any 2021 guy who isn't enrolling early won't really have much difference to their decision anyway.

In fact, any 2021 guy who is planning on enrolling early could potentially play real spring ball for a B1G or PAC team, while going to a team that already played in fall will have completed their season. That can get them real game experience to prepare them for the fall season and get them ahead of any non-early enrollees on the depth chart because they'll have gotten real reps against real opponents.

Not only that, even 4*/5* guys at a place like OSU won't get a lot of PT as a true freshman. But if the season is in the spring, all the high draft potential guys who opt out to prepare for the draft in spring ball won't be on the depth chart ahead of them, so they might even have MORE chances at PT as a true frosh.

I don't see why this would affect recruiting all that much.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #426 on:** August 13, 2020, 04:13:43 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on August 13, 2020, 04:09:08 PM

I doubt it's a big thing... All the 2020 guys are already on campus, signed their LOI, and would need to enter the transfer portal.

All the 2021 guys aren't thinking this will affect their PT much. Any 2021 guy who isn't enrolling early won't really have much difference to their decision anyway.

In fact, any 2021 guy who is planning on enrolling early could potentially play real spring ball for a B1G or PAC team, while going to a team that already played in fall will have completed their season. That can get them real game experience to prepare them for the fall season and get them ahead of any non-early enrollees on the depth chart because they'll have gotten real reps against real opponents.

Not only that, even 4*/5* guys at a place like OSU won't get a lot of PT as a true freshman. But if the season is in the spring, all the high draft potential guys who opt out to prepare for the draft in spring ball won't be on the depth chart ahead of them, so they might even have MORE chances at PT as a true frosh.

I don't see why this would affect recruiting all that much.

I will be optimistic and think the same.
there have been a couple of players who have already been contacted and are basically saying it’s negative recruiting against the conference- they are already getting those phone calls.

But they haven’t moved at least not yet

I don’t want to see any team in the Big Ten including Michigan and Wisconsin and Penn State and Nebraska, any of them, lose a single recruit to this situation.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #427 on:** August 13, 2020, 04:14:28 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on August 13, 2020, 03:57:03 PM

You know, if you spent a little more typing your reasoning rather than saying "See? The Civil War states want to play football! Isn't that interesting and somehow relevant???" perhaps we might have understood where you were going with it.

As it stands, I don't for a SECOND believe that your rationale was what @Honestbuckeye posted.

I think it's because the South's religion is football, as always. End of story.

ELA · « **Reply #428 on:** August 13, 2020, 04:35:12 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on August 13, 2020, 03:55:46 PM

the B1G really screwed the pooch here in canceling without waiting for more information

easily could have kicked the can down the road a couple weeks

Unless they didn't even want the guys practicing around each other...except they still are.

I think it's all getting shut down, and I think that's probably the right call, but I agree, I don't get why now. You still had at least 2 weeks to make a call.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #429 on:** August 13, 2020, 05:57:18 PM »

Well, they wouldn't be the Big Ten if they didn't step on their own dicks from time to time.

MarqHusker · « **Reply #430 on:** August 13, 2020, 06:18:50 PM »

The charade of releasing a schedule was folly.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #431 on:** August 13, 2020, 07:09:05 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 13, 2020, 03:22:58 PM

I don’t think it’s that “ far fetched”. Not so much a civil war analogy as much as a political one. Let’s be truthful - everything related to the pandemic has been politicized much to our dismay. You could have easily predicted that the conferences based in the north in the far west would be the ones most likely to bow out and the ones based in the South would opt to try to play

One thing I found interesting in the politicization of the thing is how we've never quite been able to step back from numbers. We had a discussion about data on some thread, and the first step was to say, "Well I don't trust it." And at times, I think the value is stepping back, taking note of data, understanding the timing may lag or be weird and also understanding it's not static.

I recall early in one of the threads that someone asked why it wasn't hitting Texas as hard. And of course, the answer was that the picture is going to change as we go through things. And it did. We're probably still too into totals and short-term numbers. But the issue is there's always something quick that can make us secure in our initial beliefs.

Anyway, the Pac-12 doing that thing was expected, same with the SEC. I was a mite surprised the B1G went that fast, but Warren seems a wild card. ACC's unity is impressive, but I can't help but think it breaks. Then it gets interesting.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #432 on:** August 13, 2020, 08:10:19 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on August 13, 2020, 03:57:03 PM

You know, if you spent a little more typing your reasoning rather than saying "See? The Civil War states want to play football! Isn't that interesting and somehow relevant???" perhaps we might have understood where you were going with it.

As it stands, I don't for a SECOND believe that your rationale was what @Honestbuckeye posted.

Thanks for calling me a liar. That's fun.

I've found that failing to spell out my meanings can save me some grief from certain posters here. Now I get grief from the other way. Great.

CWSooner · « **Reply #433 on:** August 13, 2020, 08:46:02 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on August 13, 2020, 10:53:11 AM

Football Championship Subdivision powerhouse North Dakota State has interest in playing the Huskers, the school's athletic director Matt Larsen confirmed to InForum.com in Fargo, North Dakota.

An NDSU spokesperson confirmed to the Journal Star on Wednesday afternoon that the school has reached out to Nebraska about playing. He said NDSU wants to play up to three games this fall, including perhaps one FBS opponent.

The Bison were originally supposed to play at Oregon on Sept. 5, but the Pac-12 joined the Big Ten in first nixing nonconference play before ultimately pulling the plug on football this fall altogether.

https://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/life-in-the-red/fcs-power-north-dakota-state-wants-to-play-nebraska-this-fall-and-has-reached-out/article_a54e1df6-1c67-5faa-aa8e-5e5b36aac948.html?%3F&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Husker_Extra&fbclid=IwAR3h5cWbXxslF0HHAH-XpTo1yvzJkXqpLtlnEdLFfs91EuLbaYozya1qNto

I thought I saw where the B1G commish said that Nebraska is free to schedule opponents and play football as long as they don't want to remain in the B1G.

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