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So Harbaugh is 1-1 in Bowl Games, 1-2 vs Sparty, and 0-2 vs OSU?

Rough start...

Bowl games really don't matter to me unless it's the Rose or CFP. The 1-2 to Sparty and 0-2 to OSU irks way more for sure.

But I'm just way more pissed off that he's wasting an elite defense away just like he did in 2016 bc they can't put together a freaking respectable offense.

They were an elite defense in 2016. If it's actually possible- they might be a better defense this year- starting 11 wise- than they were last year. Maurice Hurst, Chase Winovich, and Rashan Gary are flat out elite players. Gary is really starting to come into his own and he is scary talent wise. He leaps off the screen. He is causing problems for the offense damn near every snap even if he's not getting sacks. That's a top 5 NFL draft pick in the very near future. Josh Mettelus is a way better strong safety than Dymonte Thomas could have ever dreamed of being. Devin Bush is flat out better than Ben Gedeon could have ever dreamed of being at MLB. LaVert Hill is way better way faster than I thought he'd be.

Just a shame that a team with a defense this good is going to be wasted- yet again. If they had even B+ offense this is a lethal team bc they got an A+ defense and some really solid special teams units and a hell of a kicker.

Fuck this game. Fuck this offensive coaching staff. Fuck Michigan State.

Why the FUCK do they always get the FLUKEY plays in this game? Lewerke fumbles the snap and then picks it up and lands short of the 1st but lands on his own fucking player and rolls over him for a 1st down? Un-fucking-believable.

Why does MSU always get the fucking voodoo in this game? Can we just drop MSU from the schedule? Fuck them. We don't need to play them.

heheheheheee- there is a filter thingy I've been playing with that exchanges words outside of users ability to alter... Now, I wouldn't do that to y'all, because we're mostly all adults here... but... if i were to do such a thing it would have rendered this post something like:

I wanna hump this game. I wanna hump this offensive coaching staff. I wanna hump Michigan State.

Why the I wanna hump do they always get the FLUKEY plays in this game? Lewerke fumbles the snap and then picks it up and lands short of the 1st but lands on his own I wanna hump player and rolls over him for a 1st down? Un-I wanna hump-believable.

Why does MSU always get the I wanna hump voodoo in this game? Can we just drop MSU from the schedule? I wanna hump them. We don't need to play them.

friend, that's a whole lotta humpin'.... you must be a young man, no?  I usually tap out after two or three sessions within a 24 hour window, nowadays.

back on topic:  these games are rivalry for a reason.  enter today into lore.

Also somehow Arizona's QB had 14 carries for 327 yards today. Also was 11/12 passing.

Fer real?That's a productive day at the office right there

BTW I've been high on Sparty all year and it feels good to be so right

Same. 

I'd note that ND benefited from significant turnovers against Michigan State, who I think is a solid team.

Of course I also think Dantonio can coach a lick.

MSU might beat somebody else good this year.

It's well established that the ND game has little effect on MSUs season historically. And as you point out, MSU made some critical errors in that game that ND capitalized on. I still believe that if LJ doesn't fumble going into the end zone that game ends up being a one score affair either direction. 
I don't think this is 2013 situation where MSU loses to ND and ends the season as arguably the best team in the nation but I do agree that there is a good chance this isn't the last marquee win  We'll see. This is still a crazy young team that will have its moments. 

Pretty clear last year was an aberration for Dantonio.

Yeah, that was surprising.  The guy can flat out coach.
Congrats to Sparty, most around here know I'm a t-shirt Michigan fan but that has to feel good for MSU fans to take out their rival like that.  I only managed to catch a little of that game because my own team was busy almost killing me by myocardial infarction in a 2OT game against the Purple Menace, and my i s c & a aggie wife's team was also in its own painful episode against Nick Satan, but what I did manage to catch of UM-MSU was interesting.

It just occurred to me that there were two helmet schools from the B1G celebrating the 20th anniversaries of their split MNC's.

They both lost.