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Topic: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness

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ELA

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #126 on: October 22, 2023, 10:08:08 AM »
Well, @ELA we all hope you reconsider this.
I mean I'm out on the sport.  It's broken beyond repair

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #127 on: October 22, 2023, 10:15:11 AM »
JJ McCarthy is the best QB in college football.

There. I said it.
This feels like one of those preseason polls where you rank a sleeper highly to be cheeky. 

It's hard for me to see a guy averaging less than 225 yards per game who hasn't been stress tested as No. 1. He might be able to be that guy, but you gotta do something to get the mantra. Either you bomb away or show your mettle in high leverage spots. 

Maybe he will.

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #128 on: October 22, 2023, 10:38:22 AM »
Maybe take a quick glance at a video before you put it on your scoreboard


https://twitter.com/ramzy/status/1715920956084883471?s=20

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #129 on: October 22, 2023, 11:23:52 AM »
I mean I'm out on the sport.  It's broken beyond repair
it’s been broken. SEC broke it with all the paying of players so the rest of the conferences were cool with legally paying the players with NIL then add portal, playoff, and tv realignment finished it.

is what it is at this point. Last shoe to drop is the NCAA dying and going away- which can’t happen fcking fast enough and P5- well P4 now- breaking away and killing off the FBS/G5 and the ridiculous amount of teams- something like 133 now- which is a joke.

 

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #130 on: October 22, 2023, 11:26:34 AM »
This feels like one of those preseason polls where you rank a sleeper highly to be cheeky.

It's hard for me to see a guy averaging less than 225 yards per game who hasn't been stress tested as No. 1. He might be able to be that guy, but you gotta do something to get the mantra. Either you bomb away or show your mettle in high leverage spots.

Maybe he will.
Agreed. It’s too premature to say that. All you can say so far is JJ looks to be much improved from where he was a year ago and that he’s obviously very talented. 

If he goes out and deals vs Penn State and Ohio State - then we can have that conversation. 

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #131 on: October 22, 2023, 11:32:16 AM »
it’s been broken. SEC broke it with all the paying of players so the rest of the conferences were cool with legally paying the players with NIL then add portal, playoff, and tv realignment finished it.

is what it is at this point. Last shoe to drop is the NCAA dying and going away- which can’t happen fcking fast enough and P5- well P4 now- breaking away and killing off the FBS/G5 and the ridiculous amount of teams- something like 133 now- which is a joke.

 
Letting the conferences negotiate their own TV deals became a much bigger problem than anyone anticipated.

Imagine the Packers jumping to the NFC East for the TV money, and the Bears suddenly becoming a de facto minor league team

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #133 on: October 22, 2023, 01:03:46 PM »
This feels like one of those preseason polls where you rank a sleeper highly to be cheeky.

It's hard for me to see a guy averaging less than 225 yards per game who hasn't been stress tested as No. 1. He might be able to be that guy, but you gotta do something to get the mantra. Either you bomb away or show your mettle in high leverage spots.

Maybe he will.
That’s the tough spot as there hasn’t really been a real test yet. Penn State give us a much better idea of him along with the offense. The only part I disagree with is using the 225 ypg stat as he rarely plays in the second half and especially the 4th quarter. He’s #1 in QBR, although again to your point, against mediocre talent at best.

from a visual perspective, he’s only had one game he looked off against BG. Besides that, there’s 1-2 passes at most that aren’t perfect or aren’t the best decision. Besides that, the couple incompletions here and there are drops. Most players have inconsistencies during the year, but his are very very limited. The other player that sticks out like that to me is Marvin Harrison Jr. Some guys just seem to be on another level.

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #134 on: October 22, 2023, 01:15:37 PM »
it’s been broken. SEC broke it with all the paying of players so the rest of the conferences were cool with legally paying the players with NIL then add portal, playoff, and tv realignment finished it.

is what it is at this point. Last shoe to drop is the NCAA dying and going away- which can’t happen fcking fast enough and P5- well P4 now- breaking away and killing off the FBS/G5 and the ridiculous amount of teams- something like 133 now- which is a joke.
It was always a joke. After Tattoogate, the NCAA suspended OSU players for up to 10 games for a bunch of pretty minor infractions. Then they found that Cam Newton was sold to Auburn for six figures and suspended him for a half. They never had any morals guiding them, so they ended up mostly just punishing random players for petty crap.

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #135 on: October 22, 2023, 01:26:43 PM »
That’s the tough spot as there hasn’t really been a real test yet. Penn State give us a much better idea of him along with the offense. The only part I disagree with is using the 225 ypg stat as he rarely plays in the second half and especially the 4th quarter. He’s #1 in QBR, although again to your point, against mediocre talent at best.
That's fair. My main thought was, if you're gonna make that pitch and you haven't been tested, you ought to be at the forefront of your offense. Like Pinex or whatnot is at least a centerpiece. And to this point, JJ hasn't really been used that way. 

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #136 on: October 22, 2023, 03:19:51 PM »

https://twitter.com/TomFornelli/status/1715837648126746688?s=20

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #137 on: October 22, 2023, 03:42:28 PM »
It was always a joke. After Tattoogate, the NCAA suspended OSU players for up to 10 games for a bunch of pretty minor infractions. Then they found that Cam Newton was sold to Auburn for six figures and suspended him for a half. They never had any morals guiding them, so they ended up mostly just punishing random players for petty crap.

I notice doing battle with the NCAA is a lot like surviving cancel culture.  The ones who make it out are the ones who make it clear from the jump, "F*** you, I won't change ****, what are you really gonna do about it?"  The ones who get buried are the ones who show fear or try to placate whoever's coming after them.  

Charles Barkley is a good example of somebody who says some stuff, he's irritated a lot of people who got up in arms, and his response is brilliant....see above.  Then they move on to something else, realizing he won't bend the knee.  He's an old Auburn guy, and, ironically, AU's response to the NCAA with Cam was about the same thing.  

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #138 on: October 22, 2023, 04:01:01 PM »
I notice doing battle with the NCAA is a lot like surviving cancel culture.  The ones who make it out are the ones who make it clear from the jump, "F*** you, I won't change ****, what are you really gonna do about it?"  The ones who get buried are the ones who show fear or try to placate whoever's coming after them. 

Charles Barkley is a good example of somebody who says some stuff, he's irritated a lot of people who got up in arms, and his response is brilliant....see above.  Then they move on to something else, realizing he won't bend the knee.  He's an old Auburn guy, and, ironically, AU's response to the NCAA with Cam was about the same thing. 
this is exactly what happens. co-operate with the NCAA even a little bit, and they just bury you and make an example of you. you tell them to f**k right off, refuse to co-operate, tell them to get a subpoena (LOL), block them at every turn- you'll be fine.

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Re: October 21 - Week 8 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #139 on: October 22, 2023, 04:08:08 PM »
That said, the NCAA also refused to make any changes to their philosophy about amateurism. And when something is that badly broken, when you refuse to fix it yourself, someone else is going to fix it for you. And you're not going to like the fix. 

As for the on field product:

We all know that Michigan has been hammering everyone to the point where the starters haven't seen the 4th quarter all year. The question on them: when do they have their WTF game, Purdue or Maryland? Any team seriously contending for a MNC will have one. Washington survived theirs in the wee hours of this morning vs Arizona State (lost 4 turnovers, only had ball 22 minutes, final score was from a pick-six).

 

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