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Topic: Michigan 2017 Season Thread

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2017, 02:29:02 PM »
I didn't realize Winovich was so big.  I knew he was fast.  DL is going to be special again this year.

he definitely looks a lot bigger. If he's close to 260 and can hold up against the run he'll be a star.

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2017, 02:36:42 PM »
Coach Zordich calling out some of the CBs makes me think all is not sunshine and roses in the secondary...

I think you'd be crazy to expect them to be great out of the gate.  Fortunately the only ranked team they play before mid-October is Florida, whose strength was already not going to be passing the ball, and that's before they lost Calloway.  They'll have 6 weeks to grow up back there before facing McSorley.

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2017, 03:41:15 PM »

Depth will make or break that front line. If they get some productive depth out of Lawrence Marshall and some of the young guys, that DL could be lethal yet again in 2017 despite losing Wormley, Taco, and Glasgow to the NFL.

Like OSU last season who lost Bosa,Washington,Schutt & Hale.Lot of talent but need that experience which helps with confidence & development.They could be something as they get to play together
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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2017, 04:06:49 PM »
I think you'd be crazy to expect them to be great out of the gate.  Fortunately the only ranked team they play before mid-October is Florida, whose strength was already not going to be passing the ball, and that's before they lost Calloway.  They'll have 6 weeks to grow up back there before facing McSorley.

this. the young CB's will have plenty of time to get their feet wet before. They will be completely different players game 1 vs game 7. 

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2017, 04:12:08 PM »

Take it easy big fella. The young QB's could also lose confidence early and not develop properly. It happens a lot. Just be careful with the


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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2017, 04:18:02 PM »
Take it easy big fella. The young QB's could also lose confidence early and not develop properly. It happens a lot. Just be careful with the


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with Hoke coaching them they probably would have lost confidence and fallen apart. Have only seen great player development out of Harbaugh and his staff. Jourdan Lewis flourished and would have never expected in a million years for Jeremy Clark or Channing Stribling to do anything let alone BOTH be very good players when they looked like absolute trash under Hoke.

The game is all about coaching and player development. Harbaugh and Don Brown both have a pretty god damn good track record at that. Excuse me for having faith in an elite HC and an elite DC.

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2017, 04:19:54 PM »
You forgot mental. So much of the game is mental.
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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2017, 04:26:32 PM »
You forgot mental. So much of the game is mental.

which again leads back to coaching and player development.

the great coaches know how to play mind games with players to get the most out of them. Jimmy Johnson was the master at this. The guy had his masters in psychology and was going to be a psychologist before he fell into coaching.

many people think Harbaugh is mental. Lol. Whatever he's doing- he knows the mind of a player and what buttons to press. The guy has developed talent everywhere he's ever been.

Michigan has a really good coaching staff. Off the top of my head- Harbaugh, Brown, Drevno, and Frey are all rock solid coaches. All of them have great reputations and track records of developing talent.

Pros it's all about the QB. You don't have one, you're screwed. College game is all about the coach. You don't have a great one, you're screwed. Doesn't matter if you're Florida or USC or Texas with an unlimited supply of recruiting gold all around you. No coach, no program.

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2017, 02:01:16 PM »
4* DE/DT James Hudson dabbling at OT in fall camp? Sounds like it according to Sam Webb. Wouldn't mind that move to be honest. They have a lot of young, promising talent along the DL from the 2016 and 2017 class. Offensive Tackle? Eh not so much.

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2017, 08:13:39 AM »
Insider reports that Speight has won the starting job backed up by O'Korn.   McCaffrey would be #3 if not for a red shirt...so Peters is "fading."
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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2017, 12:26:57 PM »
Insider reports that Speight has won the starting job backed up by O'Korn.   McCaffrey would be #3 if not for a red shirt...so Peters is "fading."

that's not "insider" report, that came from another Michigan blog that is an MgoBlog wannabe and way less credible.

McCaffrey is a beanpole. I highly doubt he'd be higher on the depth chart than Peters. Anybody who thought Speight wouldn't keep the job is crazy. O'Korn being ahead of a RS Frosh Peters on the depth chart is a little bit surprising, but it's not completely shocking. Peters was always going to take some time to develop. He was a little raw as a HS QB. He played 3 other sports and didn't have the private tutoring that top QB prospects these days have.

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2017, 05:19:04 PM »
RS Frosh Nate Johnson (5'11, 180) has made the move to CB. Makes sense for depth purposes with the Keith Washington transfer. Also, it's kind of a crowded young WR room right now. Don't really think Johnson was going to get very many minutes as a WR going forward, especially with Grant Perry being re-instated. Have to think most of the slot WR minutes will go to Perry and Eddie McDoom.

Makes one WR from both the 2016 and 2017 classes that have now moved to DB. 4* Brad Hawkins moved to safety back in the spring and has been getting very good reviews from secondary coach Mike Zordich. Johnson was a 3* in the 2016 247Composite- although 247's own rankings were much higher on him- they had him as a 4* and as one their top 200 players in the nation.

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2017, 02:22:51 PM »
I've never heard of him, so I can't imagine it's a huge deal


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Michigan's Nate Johnson, a cornerback who played wide receiver last season, has been suspended from all team activities.

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Re: Michigan 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2017, 09:38:47 PM »
I've never heard of him, so I can't imagine it's a huge deal


Adam Rittenberg
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Michigan's Nate Johnson, a cornerback who played wide receiver last season, has been suspended from all team activities.
it's not.
Not for this season anyway. He was a 2016 recruit, 3* WR from Tennessee. Listed at 5'11, 180. Redshirted in 2016 and was getting passed over by a bunch of WR's in fall camp of 2017 and they moved him to CB.

 

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