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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2018, 03:17:59 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 08, 2018, 03:13:27 PM
It happens all the time.



I (and my team)  work more hours to make it happen. Every client "thinks" they are my only client, and they are treated equally. That's how it works.



Get it done. You play the "game" with the "team" you signed up for. Whatever it takes. No excuses.
I think that either you aren't being honest with yourself or you aren't noticing the abstract limits of the analogy -- that it is strictly impossible to GUARANTEE that both clients are as happy as they want. That either ONLY the prospective $10MM client will get that guarantee or ONLY the current, smaller client will get it. Guaranteeing it to both is not possible.
Just as for these players, guaranteeing both their maximal earnings in 5 months and guaranteeing their participation this game is not possible.
You have to pick ONE.
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2018, 03:21:35 PM »
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2018, 03:57:36 PM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on December 08, 2018, 03:17:59 PM

You have to pick ONE.
No, I don't. There is no choice in the matter.
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2018, 03:57:52 PM »
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2018, 05:01:20 PM »
It's somewhat understandable for some players, especially if they're injury prone and/or injured this year, as Gary was. For Grier, in particular, I don't really get it, though he is apparently projected higher than I expected despite his size and lack of games against good defenses.

Conversely, some coaches are guilty of not playing their seniors as much in bowl games in favor of returning players, so coaches can't necessarily play the victim role, either.
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2018, 05:51:14 PM »
I don’t love it from a fan POV.  I think it is being overly cautious but I’ve also never been in a position to lose millions of dollars.  If Grier goes out there and cracks his leg in half I’ll say, “Jeez, that sucks” and then be over it in 5 seconds.  He has to live with it.

If his teammates are upset with him then I think they have a right to be.  As a fan I don’t.
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2018, 06:02:38 PM »
Or, you could make like Bosa and just not play at all. Why play in November? October?



That's where this is headed. Just watch.




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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2018, 06:03:54 PM »
I havent researched this, but I'm 99% (invented percentage) that it's true:  all these players who sit out bowl games are much more likely to have a career-ending injury driving around in their car than they are in one particular football game.  Yet they drive, and if they chose not to drive, at least then they wouldn't be letting down their teammates.


Just sayin'.
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2018, 06:53:52 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 08, 2018, 03:57:36 PM
No, I don't. There is no choice in the matter.
Unless you think that the players who get injured in bowl games chose to, you're deliberately ignoring the purpose of the exercise.
The choice is either to guarantee something life-changingly big (that one has earned) or risk losing it for little or zero compensation (for sake of congratulating one's principles).
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2018, 07:30:14 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 08, 2018, 06:02:38 PM
Or, you could make like Bosa and just not play at all. Why play in November? October?



That's where this is headed. Just watch.




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This is what cracks me up everyone talk about expansion,while more players are sitting.So I guess they won't find out who the best team is after all and just made the networks/programs more money
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2018, 07:33:17 PM »
Do we actually know that Bosa skipped the season? My understanding is that he may actually have been sufficiently hurt to miss the season on injury alone. Making the only weird thing is that he also skipped town. I'll admit that part is worthy of our furled eyebrows. But without more info, we probably shouldn't lump him into this thread about guys who can play but pick not to.
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2018, 10:06:12 PM »

Donnell Greene, OT, Minnesota
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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2018, 07:25:17 AM »
For the potential first rounders, especially RBs, playing in a bowl game is a poor financial decision IMHO.  Most players obviously need that bowl game to impress scouts, but some are clearly top players and don't need it, so they can prep for the combine etc.  It's not as if many are sticking around to graduate.

For those who were poor all their lives, the prospects of a major income has to be alluring.  What they do with it is a separate thing of course.

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Re: List of players sitting out their bowl game
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2018, 10:14:09 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 08, 2018, 06:03:54 PM
I havent researched this, but I'm 99% (invented percentage) that it's true:  all these players who sit out bowl games are much more likely to have a career-ending injury driving around in their car than they are in one particular football game.  Yet they drive, and if they chose not to drive, at least then they wouldn't be letting down their teammates.


Just sayin'.
Ehh, that’s probably less than true. 
Let’s say we assume something insanely generous like 10 percent of non-old people suffer one football-career damaging injury in a car. But they’re likely driving thousands of miles per injury. Chances are you’re gonna get hurt more often in two years of football than two years of driving, even if you drive far more than you football. 

Now he counter would be that not that many kids suffer really draft-stock damaging injuries in bowls, but it depends the situation, the player etc. I can say, the chances are low, but if something costs me $800,000, I’m probably not gonna do it. Football at its heart remains a violent game with bodies falling all over legs often. I’d guess injury history might factor in as well. 
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