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bayareabadger

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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #98 on: December 18, 2024, 07:46:24 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 18, 2024, 02:56:49 AM
You keep coming at me with that like a "gotcha!" moment.

When did I ever say that we didn't need controls, or guardrails?

Regardless, our biggest issue is illegal guns, and we know where most of those reside. Figure that one out because I can't.
Not really a gotcha, just want to keep illustrating that a lot of folks aren't so far apart on things. Lot's of consensus we want the government to limit firearm access, just some gaps on how. 

And a prevailing good sense that many, many people shouldn't have them. Because they allow people to be very dangerous.
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #99 on: December 18, 2024, 07:47:02 AM »
Quote from: jgvol on December 18, 2024, 06:35:27 AM
Well, uh …. Yeah. 

Somebody is going to have to make a business decision. 

The hope is that the bad guy reevaluates his position.  Success rate is probably pretty high. 
And we agree, they're for killin, and threatening to kill people. 
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #100 on: December 18, 2024, 07:52:02 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 18, 2024, 07:37:10 AM
The number of guns in the US has gone up a lot while violent crime rates have come down a lot since about 1992.
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 18, 2024, 07:37:46 AM
The percentage of HHs owning guns has trended down. 
the homes that do have guns are more likely to have 10+ guns, some 20 or 30+
self defense
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847badgerfan

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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #101 on: December 18, 2024, 07:54:03 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 18, 2024, 07:47:02 AM
And we agree, they're for killin, and threatening to kill people.
Not for us. We enjoy the sport of shooting. It's fun.

Yes, they are in our home, and yes, they would be used to kill if the need arose. I don't suspect that will ever happen as we spend a lot of money to live in an area where it just doesn't happen.

Gonna be a bit for me with this chest wound. Especially with that 44. That thing is a LOT of gun. No way I could shoot that thing at this point.

I guess I have time to do some deep cleaning on the collection. Maybe I'll start tomorrow. Maybe not.
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #102 on: December 18, 2024, 07:56:16 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 18, 2024, 07:46:24 AM
Not really a gotcha, just want to keep illustrating that a lot of folks aren't so far apart on things. Lot's of consensus we want the government to limit firearm access, just some gaps on how.

And a prevailing good sense that many, many people shouldn't have them. Because they allow people to be very dangerous.
The extremists want them all taken away. If that happened, only cops and criminals would have guns. Cops and rule of law people don't want that.

So, that is a non-starter.
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #103 on: December 18, 2024, 07:58:46 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 18, 2024, 07:56:16 AM
The extremists want them all taken away. If that happened, only cops and criminals would have guns. Cops and rule of law people don't want that.

So, that is a non-starter.
never happen in my lifetime

kinda like Social Security going away
just scare tactic - never happen
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #104 on: December 18, 2024, 10:05:56 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 17, 2024, 11:21:04 PM
This fantasizing about killing cops could be a mediocre rap song.
If you can't process the difference between ghetto thugs wanting to kill the cops tasked with keeping them from killing each other and someone willing to stand up and risk their own life for the principle of a legitimate government then there is no hope for you.  
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2024, 10:23:23 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 18, 2024, 07:47:02 AM
And we agree, they're for killin, and threatening to kill people.

That has never been in doubt.  Not sure why it keeps getting tossed around.

If you threaten me , or my family, yes --  I will threaten you back with a .45 in your face.

Hopefully, you reevaluate your thinking, and slither away.  The entire purpose.  Meet force with equal or greater force.

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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #106 on: December 18, 2024, 10:28:31 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 18, 2024, 07:56:16 AM
The extremists want them all taken away. If that happened, only cops and criminals would have guns. Cops and rule of law people don't want that.

So, that is a non-starter.

Here's the rub..... and where all arguments against controls ends.

Criminals do not obey the law.


"A lock does no more than keep an honest man honest.”

― Robin Hobb, Assassin's Quest
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #107 on: December 18, 2024, 11:34:40 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 18, 2024, 07:52:02 AM
the homes that do have guns are more likely to have 10+ guns, some 20 or 30+
self defense
I have my 20 or 30+ for fun.

I have exactly two that are specifically for self defense.
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2024, 11:37:18 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 18, 2024, 11:34:40 AM
I have my 20 or 30+ for fun.

I have exactly two that are specifically for self defense.
You have a lot of collector's items, right?
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #109 on: December 18, 2024, 11:53:12 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 18, 2024, 11:37:18 AM
You have a lot of collector's items, right?
Yup.  I got my granddad's entire collection because my cousins on the other side are super-liberal anti-gun dudes, and my brother lives in an apartment and has no room for any of it.  My sister has no interest.

The real collector's pieces have been on display in museums in Temple, Belton, Waco, and Austin.  One of them is a rifle that Wild Bill Hickock allegedly owned, they had that one in an exhibit at the Texas Rangers museum in Waco for a while.

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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #110 on: December 18, 2024, 11:58:17 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 17, 2024, 05:32:46 PM
If they show up at my door to take mine, they better be really well armed because they are only taking my guns from my cold dead hands. 
We may strongly dislike each other's takes on anything related to Michigan and Ohio state, but we seem to see so many other parts of the world similarly. If only i could convert you to good fandom. I'll drop you off some maize and blue socks. Let's start small. 
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Re: keeping Madison in thoughts and prayers
« Reply #111 on: December 18, 2024, 01:47:21 PM »
Damn, it's almost as if underneath all that tribalism, we can see each other's actual humanity. 




What fun is that!?!
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