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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47110 on: July 19, 2025, 09:53:28 AM »
maybe Trump should send in some troops next week?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47111 on: July 19, 2025, 11:53:48 AM »
Truman really should have let Patton march into Russia.
any such invasion by US would've been doomed to fail. the only conceivably realistic way to break USSR would've been to use nukes on them in the 4 year head start US had on them on the atom bomb imo.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47112 on: July 19, 2025, 12:11:44 PM »
I think so too

but, today we could kick some ass
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47113 on: July 19, 2025, 12:15:17 PM »
any such invasion by US would've been doomed to fail. the only conceivably realistic way to break USSR would've been to use nukes on them in the 4 year head start US had on them on the atom bomb imo.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47114 on: July 19, 2025, 12:27:29 PM »
I think so too

but, today we could kick some ass
Who's we?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47115 on: July 19, 2025, 12:40:05 PM »
U. S, & A
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47116 on: July 19, 2025, 12:49:22 PM »
Not without help, and a lot of it. India would be needed. Would they become an ally?

Russia would be joined by Iran, China and North Korea. All with massive army's. 

What wars has the USA won without help (or even with help)?

When was the last one since WWII?

There isn't one. 80 years, lots of wars, no wins.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47117 on: July 19, 2025, 12:56:10 PM »
Putin would push the button,no doubt,let the Russkies deal with their problem
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47118 on: July 19, 2025, 01:39:59 PM »
I think so too

but, today we could kick some ass
lol. yeah, no.

we can't even beat goat-fucking sheep herder cave men in Afghanistan who have never seen a shower or toilet wielding home made explosives and crummy Soviet era AKs manufactured in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

$37 trillion in debt, completely over-extended and stretched dangerously thin both financially and military. in short; we are cooked.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47119 on: July 19, 2025, 01:41:18 PM »
Whatever means necessary.
yeah, hard pass. no thanks. i think Hiroshima and Nagasaki were war crimey enough on our end.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47120 on: July 19, 2025, 03:42:33 PM »
if the Ruskies don't have enuff to over run Ukraine......... they don't got much
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47121 on: July 19, 2025, 04:19:36 PM »
The US's military might hasn't been wholly unleashed in 80 years.  We've had to be surgical, careful, nuanced, and not against an official national entity. 
Basically no one has done anything to have us go all Israel on them.
And that's on purpose.

IF a country officially and directly attacked us, we'd unleash the fury and erase them from the planet.
They know this.

So they're not stupid.  That's all.
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The US's military might hasn't been wholly unleashed in 80 years.  We've had to be surgical, careful, nuanced, and not against an official national entity. 
Basically no one has done anything to have us go all Israel on them.
And that's on purpose.

IF a country officially and directly attacked us, we'd unleash the fury and erase them from the planet.
They know this.

So they're not stupid.  That's all.
The USA doesn't even have the numbers to actually win a war. Probably not the intestinal fortitude either.

USA: 2.1 million (including reserves - 1.3 million active)

Including the USA, NATO combined has 3.2 million active personnel.

China: 3 million (2 M active)
N Korea: 7.6 million (1.3)
Russia: 3.2 million (1.1)
Iran: 1 million (0.6)
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The US was very tired of war in April, 1945, and funds were starting to be short.  The Russians had about three times as many divisions in Europe as the US albeit smaller ones.  Russia had much better tanks, comparable fighters, very tough experienced soldiers, and ton of artillery.  Patton would not have "marched to Moscow".  It would have been an incredibly tough fight, probably ending in stalemate.

You might say "Well, we had the bomb", in August anyway, but not many of them, and only transferrable using the B-29, which was hardly immune to opposing fighters and not really tactically useful.  And we didn't have many of them.

I don't think it was at all a viable option to have attacked Russia in 1945.  We still had the war in the Pacific going on as well.

 

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