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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Cincydawg

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46102 on: June 30, 2025, 05:54:50 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 30, 2025, 05:52:14 PM
Anyhow, neither party can ever EVER say another goddamned word about the deficit. 
Oddly enough, both parties WILL continue to say many WORDS about it, despite your restriction.  The Democrats are going on pretty hard right at the moment.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46103 on: June 30, 2025, 05:57:36 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 30, 2025, 05:51:26 PM
Did I not?
You said you weren't at the time.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46104 on: Today at 07:47:44 AM »
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46105 on: Today at 07:56:43 AM »
The deficit is just another on a list of things each party complains about when out of power.  I do think a lot of issues could be managed with compromise but neither party wants them managed, they want them as issues, fake issues really because they COULD fix them, but won't.

The deficit thing is not fixable in my view.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46106 on: Today at 07:57:44 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 07:56:43 AM
The deficit is just another on a list of things each party complains about when out of power.  I do think a lot of issues could be managed with compromise but neither party wants them managed, they want them as issues, fake issues really because they COULD fix them, but won't.

The deficit thing is not fixable in my view.
Not without raising taxes.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46107 on: Today at 08:00:51 AM »
I don't like the idea that if something is deemed "unfixable" that there's no sense in trying to improve the situation even a little

CO2 emissions, national deficit, homelessness, power of the egg lobby.... 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46108 on: Today at 08:08:04 AM »
I see the deficit as inherently unfixable, I'd certainly like to try, but it seems futile to me.  The best we might be able to do is grow the debt slower than GDP growth for a while, if even that is feasible.

Raising tax rates doesn't seem to raise more revenue for obvious reasons.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46109 on: Today at 09:00:20 AM »
The best we might be able to do is grow the debt slower than GDP growth for a while

that's a better plan than anything in the past 20 years
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46110 on: Today at 09:07:37 AM »
As noted often, any serious attempt to cut spending would result in few getting reelected.  They know that.  It's a tailor made ad for your political opponent.  You threw Grandma over a cliff.  Or cut our military preparedness and pay for our soldiers.  Or you cut Social Security (which would probably get you in really hot water) or Medicare.

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« Reply #46111 on: Today at 09:18:00 AM »
kinda like the BBB???

millions are gonna lose medicare/medicaid!!!!  holy shit!
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46112 on: Today at 09:18:29 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 07:56:43 AM


The deficit thing is not fixable in my view.
Agreed.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46113 on: Today at 09:21:23 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on Today at 08:00:51 AM
I don't like the idea that if something is deemed "unfixable" that there's no sense in trying to improve the situation even a little

CO2 emissions, national deficit, homelessness, power of the egg lobby....
Our deficit is the equivalent of an 18 year old signing up for a credit card to get a free t-shirt and due to some error, put $50 million dollars on it.
There is no paying that off.
All you could do is have them declare bankruptcy and teach them how to use a credit card responsibly going forward (rarely and immediately paid).

Actually paying it off isn't a thing.
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« Reply #46114 on: Today at 09:24:27 AM »
so, that's what it probably will come down to......... bankruptcy

sorry lenders
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46115 on: Today at 09:28:31 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on Today at 09:24:27 AM
so, that's what it probably will come down to......... bankruptcy

sorry lenders
Well the lenders can't ever collect by force......'the people' and a few countries.  If a country with any meaningful amount of our debt tried to do anything robust to collect, we'd just attack them.
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