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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Mdot21

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45584 on: June 19, 2025, 02:39:09 PM »

that's funny.  I'd love to send Ted Cruz on the ground to invade Iran. 

Iran has 3+x the population of Iraq (when we invaded 2003) and it's geography/terrain make it basically uninvadible.



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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45585 on: June 19, 2025, 02:39:33 PM »
I'm not sure Israel could deliver a nuclear weapon to Fordow.  I'd say probably, but not certainly.

Israel never signed the NNPT of course so they could "legally" build their own nukes, to the extent international law is even a thing.


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45586 on: June 19, 2025, 02:40:03 PM »
I don't think China would like that. And China is a backer of Iran to a degree- they might have sway with them.

My view remains the same, US should stay out completely and do all it can to incentivize Iran to make a deal. China might have to lead the way on this. Iran probably doesn't trust the US and quite frankly for good reason.
Israel doesn't trust China, China's been far too supportive of Palestinian causes.  There's zero chance China could broker a deal here.  Maybe Canada.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45587 on: June 19, 2025, 02:51:24 PM »
I don't see any way China, Russia or the US could broker a deal with how invested they've all made themselves.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45588 on: June 19, 2025, 02:54:18 PM »
Yeah, Iran is directly involved in Russia's current invasion and shooting war. No way Israel trusts them, either.


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45589 on: June 19, 2025, 02:55:00 PM »
that's funny.  I'd love to send Ted Cruz on the ground to invade Iran.

Iran has 3+x the population of Iraq (when we invaded 2003) and it's geography/terrain make it basically uninvadible.



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Which also makes it easier to hold.

That said, if a single boot hits the ground under Trump's watch, any MAGA candidate in even a slightly swing district is going to get destroyed in the midterms.  Obviously certain situations are beyond his control, but if within the first 6 months he raises prices with tariffs, and gets American troops involved in another war, he's going to lose the swing votes that didn't just get him elected, but got him the 2nd majority popular Republican vote since Reagan

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45590 on: June 19, 2025, 03:03:29 PM »
I think a "quick strike" somewhere involving ground forces that got out in 2 hours wouldn't sway opinions here badly, if successful.  Anything prolonged, yeah, they'd get hammered and rightly so.  I don't think even Trump would consider any kind of ground invasion.

Remember Carter basically lost the election because of an attempt to go in and get out.  I didn't like the concept behind that raid anyway, but I suspect he felt forced to try something, and it failed badly.

The only thing the US should even contemplate would be a couple bombs on Fordow, and I'm against that.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45591 on: June 19, 2025, 03:21:28 PM »
this is the same bible thumping Republican disgusting fat fuck btw that said "Palestinianism is built on violence" - an absolutely disgusting and retarded thing to say. Wonder how buddy would feel if his people were ethnically cleansed and displaced from their homes in 1948 and denied the right to return ever since- and then those people of his that relocated/didn't leave have lived under harsh military occupation for 58 consecutive years.

Wait...it gets better....then this moron said the US should nuke Gaza. Then he walked it back saying he didn't really mean it- the Palestinians just need to totally surrender and that nuking Gaza would actually be bad because nuclear weapons on Gaza would be a "terrible idea" due to potential fallout affecting Israel and killing hostages....LOL. Can't make this shit up.

how is this guy actually an elected US politician.



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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45592 on: June 19, 2025, 03:22:09 PM »
how is this guy actually an elected US politician.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45593 on: June 19, 2025, 03:24:10 PM »
Approximately 1.77 million Muslims live in Israel, constituting around 18% of the country's population. They are the largest religious minority in Israel. The majority are Sunni Arabs, with a smaller Ahmadiyya community and other groups like Bedouin, Circassians, Kurds, Roma, and Turks. 


I'm guessing not many Jews live in Syria or Lebanon or Saudi Arabia.

That part of the world is pretty messed up.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45594 on: June 19, 2025, 03:29:29 PM »


Wife and I are both off today for Juneteenth.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45595 on: June 19, 2025, 03:30:11 PM »
Israel doesn't trust China, China's been far too supportive of Palestinian causes.  There's zero chance China could broker a deal here.  Maybe Canada.
them bad China-men! I mean they only completely armed & funded Israel to the hilt and looked the other way all while Israel has assuredly killed more than 200,000 Palestinians that they trap in an open air prison in Gaza and has completely destroyed every hospital and most of the housing & public infrastructure, meanwhile they control all water & electricity coming in to Gaza and cut it off whenever they want, and oh yeah they control all the food & medicine coming in and there have been periods where Israel has went months blockading and preventing any food & medicine from coming in at all- meanwhile they bomb refugee camps, slaughter international aid workers & local journalists and ban any international journalists from coming in to report on the war- all while they continue to annex and take land in the West Bank! Bad China! Oh fuck....wait....that's us doing that. Fuck. Shit.



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Sorry for going way off topic. 

/End Rant.

If US, China, or Russia can't broker this.....don't see who can. UK is seen as just a US sock puppet (because they are) - scratch them. Canada might also be too closely tied to US empire for the other side to trust. Maybe need a Latin American or Asian country that doesn't like America, Israel, or Iran to mediate? Mexico? Anyone got any candidates? 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45596 on: June 19, 2025, 03:30:53 PM »
The last state to ban slavery officially and legally was New Jersey, in 1866, and it wasn't "Junteenth" either, it was in January.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45597 on: June 19, 2025, 03:32:28 PM »
I nominate Malaysia. 
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