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My guess is Israel took out Iranian air defenses months ago when they did this for a couple days.  They now KNEW they could attack with impunity (and could withstand Iranian missile attacks "OK").  So, they devised a plan without needing a lot of air defense suppression, they could go after "stuff" on the ground, leadership, nuclear facilities, etc.

FWIW, I'm against. 

I'm against US involvement in the quagmire in Ukraine because, IMHO, who controls Ukraine is not a vital security interest of the US.  It is a European issue, let the Europeans handle it. 

I'm against US involvement in the Israel/Iran fiasco because, IMHO, who controls Iran is not a vital security interest of the US. 

Not our circus, not our monkeys. 

I generally agree, but it's not that simple.

Iran funds terrorism. I wouldn't mind a regime change at all. I just don't want the US involved in it.

Iran is a joke.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/a-battered-iran-signals-it-wants-to-de-escalate-hostilities-with-israel-and-negotiate-9feab4ae?st=gbUYxS&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/a-battered-iran-signals-it-wants-to-de-escalate-hostilities-with-israel-and-negotiate-9feab4ae?st=gbUYxS&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

sorry, but the United States is the joke here. 

The US were in the middle of negotiations with Iran and Trump claims he was in on the whole Israeli operation and gave them the OK. Excuse me? What the actual fuck? This is absolutely insane reckless foolish behavior from a head of state. Why would anyone want to deal with the US in good faith now? All this has done is incentivize the Iranians to now jump start a nuclear weapons program. 

Don't forget that it was Trump who foolishly which tore up the JCPOA in 2018 which capped Iranian enrichment to 3.57%. UN & IAEA verified a hundred times over that they were compliance- inspections were routine and nothing was off limit. 

The Democrats had to lose in 2024. They deserved it with every fiber of being with their disastrous handling of COVID lock downs and forced vaccinations with a completely unproven and rushed experimental medical treatment, censorship regime, and their blood thrist for war with the full-backing arming to the hilt in Ukraine until every last Ukrainian is dead and their full-backing arming to the hilt of Israel while it carried out it's ethnic cleansing homicidal psychopathic campaign in Gaza. But I am beginning to fall in the camp with OAM on Trump. He's increasingly showing himself to be a buffoon and he is what he has always been since day one: a cuck for Israel. Sheldon Adelson and his wife didn't fund him to the tune of hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars for nothing. And it is also undeniable that Trump did have ties with Epstein and was a close personal friend of his. Now does that mean Trump was participating in the island parties and that Mossad has black mail material on him? That I do not know for certain- we can only speculate- but there is ZERO denying that Trump did have a relationship with Epstein- a Mossad asset- just as Bill Clinton and many other prominent US politicians, bankers, and businessmen did.

sorry, but the United States is the joke here.

The US were in the middle of negotiations with Iran and Trump claims he was in on the whole Israeli operation and gave them the OK. Excuse me? What the actual fuck? This is absolutely insane reckless foolish behavior from a head of state. Why would anyone want to deal with the US in good faith now? All this has done is incentivize the Iranians to now jump start a nuclear weapons program.

apparently, the negotiations weren't going well and Trump reacted 

make no mistake, the Iranians are not afraid of Israel. they would 10000% assuredly defeat Israel head up in any war- and they have been showing that the Israeli "Iron Dome" is well: bullshit. First of all the anti-missile system Israel has is extremely expensive and surprise surprise: not that effective- and the hypersonic glider missiles which Iran has (which coincidentally the US does not have) point blank period cannot be intercepted by any known missile defenses- they are bulletproof.

short of using nuclear weapons Israel will lose this war- which they started- if Sugar Daddy America does not come to save them. And if Sugar Daddy America did come to save them- would be disastrous for this country and basically end the American Empire and our way of life- which has already been in precipitous decline in large part because of the other costly disastrous wars which we fought on Israel's behalf- mainly Iraq, Syria, and Libya.

There's no IF.  We will, as always.

And the precise reason Israel shoots their mouths of non stop, and now preemptively strikes Iran.

Why has Iran been enriching U235 to 60% for years now, when nuclear power reactors only require 3-5%?

hmmmm.......maybe because Trump's dumbass ripped up the JCPOA? 

Iran is a major manufacturer & exporter of radiopharmecticuals- one of the top 3 in the entire world- which would require above 3-5%. And it's pretty obvious actually, it's leverage. they were at a threshold stage where they could acquire nukes in a year maybe-they played with fire and got burned. 

make no mistake, the Iranians are not afraid of Israel. they would 10000% assuredly defeat Israel head up in any war

Prolly not,Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia, attacked Israel in '48-'49 war and lost

'67 Egypt, Jordan, and Syria war was a decisive victory for Israel, which gained control over the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria. That set the stage for ongoing conflicts and disputes over the occupied territories.

'73 Yom Kippur War, Egypt and Syria launched a surprise attack on Israeli forces occupying their territories captured in the 1967 war. But the Israelis pushed them back and reclaimed all that - at great cost to both sides that lead to peace negotians between Sadat/Begin