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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44282 on: April 30, 2025, 04:22:09 PM »
Blah blah. I like that stuff.

Is it good in the crawfish boiling pot with the taters and corn?

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44283 on: April 30, 2025, 04:26:17 PM »
Is it good in the crawfish boiling pot with the taters and corn?

Closer to Sake and Kobe steak.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44284 on: April 30, 2025, 04:34:40 PM »
Helluva day for the S&P. Dow up too.



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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44285 on: April 30, 2025, 04:38:05 PM »
Helluva day for the S&P. Dow up too.


Scott Bessent must've opened his mouth.  

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44286 on: April 30, 2025, 04:39:30 PM »
My working theory is whenever Bessent talks, the markets go up.  Whenever Navarro grunts through his food-snout, the markets go down. 

No idea if that's accurate at all, but it feels right, so I'm just gonna go with it.  

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« Reply #44287 on: April 30, 2025, 04:58:01 PM »
Helluva day for the S&P. Dow up too.








The Dow is off 700, which isn't unusual these days.  I think it's going a good bit lower, we could be down 2,000 by close.




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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44288 on: April 30, 2025, 05:00:53 PM »
Panic...

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« Reply #44289 on: April 30, 2025, 05:24:50 PM »

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« Reply #44290 on: April 30, 2025, 05:26:10 PM »
Weird, I posted something to the car thread and it ended up here.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44291 on: April 30, 2025, 05:38:31 PM »
Missed it by that much.  

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« Reply #44292 on: April 30, 2025, 05:51:25 PM »
Missed it by that much. 
Just a bit outside.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44293 on: May 01, 2025, 07:36:26 AM »
I was just off by one decimal place.  Interestingly, market futures are up on various earnings reports.  Investors have blown off the GDP report as irrelevant apparently.

I had not appreciated how imports count as negative GDP, thanks for that item.

I have wondered for a long time what happens when investors sell stocks to the extent the market drops a lot.  The sellers get money of course, and then they ... park it somewhere?  A money market fund generally is where it goes initially.  But other investors are taking money from somewhere to buy the securities, so it kind of nets out to zero.  Except that on "Monday", a stock is worth $100 per share and on Tuesday it's worth $90.  So where did that $10 go exactly?  Paper losses, I know.  If extreme is can generate margin calls.  I surmise there is no "conservation of monetary value".  When markets go up, more "wealth" (on paper) is generated, and vice versa.  Folks see their 401k figures and feel better, or worse.

I was working in the 2008-9 debacle and figured it meant I would have to work 3-4 years longer than I hoped.  It turned out the market recovered mostly and I retired about on time.

I figure folks are more apt to spend other monies if heir 401ks look flush, and vice versa.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44294 on: May 01, 2025, 08:11:13 AM »
I was just off by one decimal place.  Interestingly, market futures are up on various earnings reports.  Investors have blown off the GDP report as irrelevant apparently.

I had not appreciated how imports count as negative GDP, thanks for that item.

I have wondered for a long time what happens when investors sell stocks to the extent the market drops a lot.  The sellers get money of course, and then they ... park it somewhere?  A money market fund generally is where it goes initially.  But other investors are taking money from somewhere to buy the securities, so it kind of nets out to zero.  Except that on "Monday", a stock is worth $100 per share and on Tuesday it's worth $90.  So where did that $10 go exactly?  Paper losses, I know.  If extreme is can generate margin calls.  I surmise there is no "conservation of monetary value".  When markets go up, more "wealth" (on paper) is generated, and vice versa.  Folks see their 401k figures and feel better, or worse.

I was working in the 2008-9 debacle and figured it meant I would have to work 3-4 years longer than I hoped.  It turned out the market recovered mostly and I retired about on time.

I figure folks are more apt to spend other monies if heir 401ks look flush, and vice versa.
It always does.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44295 on: May 01, 2025, 08:17:36 AM »
It always has in the past, yes, there have been prolonged period of both stagnation and decline of course.  I recall beginning to invest some ca. 1980 and things looked pretty grim.  I had a group at work that shared a Value Line (which no one but me seemed to read) and we chatted about investments, and nobody was very optimistic.  The markets from about 1974 to 1982 were pretty grim really.

I think it really only matters when one is close to retirement, or retired having too high a percentage invested.

 

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