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So downturns under Dems are Dem's fault and downturns under Republicans are Dem's fault.

Got it.

Never said that. Just reporting the facts of what happened in 2008.

The markets were great under Obama and then Trump.

And to be precise, an atheist says "I don't know" to those tropes.  The believer feels some sort of bizarre pressure to have an 'answer' and chalk it up to god. 
When you don't know something, you should just acknowledge not knowing, not chalk it up to an even larger unknown.

You can't win this debate.  You don't even have a knife for the gun fight.

And to be precise, an atheist says "I don't know" to those tropes.  The believer feels some sort of bizarre pressure to have an 'answer' and chalk it up to god.

You can't win this debate.  You don't even have a knife for the gun fight.

Ah the comment section. I’ll scroll down and amuse myself for a bit.

Neither can you dissprove any more than another can prove 

More like bringing a nerf ball to a water ballon toss oh great  philosopher

Ah the comment section. I’ll scroll down and amuse myself for a bit.

Neither can you dissprove any more than another can prove

More like bringing a nerf ball to a water ballon toss oh great  philosopher

Yes, correct.  When a claim is unfalsifiable, I cannot disprove it.  But that's a problem with the claim, not with me.
I promise no one has spent more time on this here than I have.  

It's not my fault the god claim is unfalsifiable, it's yours.  It's the same as my claiming there's a teapot in orbit around Jupiter...and then my bragging that you can't disprove it.  It's utter nonsense.

Again, the time to believe in a god is when there is evidence to believe in a god.  The next evidence will be the first.

2.8 vacant acres on Palm Beach just sold for $200,000,000.00.

Mar-a-lago is 17 acres.

Acre for acre value says that 17 acres on Palm Beach is worth $1.2 Billion.

Remember this clown?

Donald Trump has been found liable for fraud by the Manhattan Supreme Court on Tuesday for overstating his net worth. One specific aspect of the ruling has raised more eyebrows than others. Justice Engoron said that the former US President's Mar-a-Lago home was worth between $18 million to $28 million.

I never understood a charge that someone overvalued their asset to get a loan, that ended up being paid off.

Due diligence by the lender, free market, etc.

As for how all "this" came into being, "we" don't know scientifically of course, at least not in detail.  Most humans have some belief in a Creator, which is a decent explanation, to me.

I was just in "Muslim Land" and had a nice conversation with a Muslim in a mosque in Doha.  It seems like Judaism with some mods, to me.  Oddly, there was nearly 2 billion Muslims and MANY fewer Jews, I read 20 million some place, globally, hardly a major religion but one with enormous influence.  (I don't mean that pejoratively.)