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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37142 on: September 11, 2024, 12:48:20 PM »
it was a big issue the 4 years he was in office and it didn't ruin the country

so, not that big
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37143 on: September 11, 2024, 12:50:53 PM »
it was a big issue the 4 years he was in office and it didn't ruin the country

so, not that big
That was back when Twitter was moderated

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« Reply #37144 on: September 11, 2024, 01:00:04 PM »
That was back when Twitter was moderated censored by DC scum
Fixed.
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« Reply #37145 on: September 11, 2024, 01:14:56 PM »
Trump's inability to know or lack of care about what is actually real and what is a conservative twitter fever dream remains an issue.
yeah if only he just stuck to the facts like Kahaha. Lol.

I agree though that Trump was a moron talking about pets. Should've just stuck to the facts of the wild animals being killed and butchered for food by illegals (who does this, seriously?) and all the violent crimes being committed by illegals.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37146 on: September 11, 2024, 01:16:14 PM »
That was back when Twitter was moderated
ummm yeah...it still is heavily moderated. 

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« Reply #37147 on: September 11, 2024, 01:17:23 PM »
Trump's inability to know or lack of care about what is actually real and what is a conservative twitter fever dream remains an issue.
This made me realize Ohio State is not playing this week.

You can root for Wisconsin and see what it's like to be a fan of a team that loses.
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« Reply #37148 on: September 11, 2024, 01:19:35 PM »
I thought Kamala did okay.  She didn't answer any of the questions and instead just switched to her talking points, but that's what any politician would do.





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« Reply #37149 on: September 11, 2024, 01:21:18 PM »
This made me realize Ohio State is not playing this week.

You can root for Wisconsin and see what it's like to be a fan of a team that loses.
For reasons I can’t explain, I find myself rooting for Wisc. most of the time anyway.   
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« Reply #37150 on: September 11, 2024, 01:24:46 PM »
nearly at the point where corporations and the state have basically merged....almost like there's a word for that....fasc..
I would avoid the F word. I actually don't think it applies, for two reasons:

  • That word is far beyond an economic system, encompassing an additional political philosophy. It entails a political philosophy where literally everything exists to support and glorify the State. Everything, from politics, to the economy, to individual action, is in the service of whatever the State requires. 
  • The economic portion of that system is not that the corporations and the State have basically merged. It is that the corporations, while nominally keeping the means of production in "private" hands, have little to no autonomy to do anything except what the State tells them to do. And what they do isn't for the benefit of the corporations, it is for the benefit of the State. 

The word you're actually looking for is corporatism. That defines something much closer to our current system, where the corporations have (to a large extent) captured the political system with their influence as it comes to helping politicians get elected (or getting them voted out), in such a way that now the government is acting for the benefit of said corporations. 

It's basically a complete reversal of the word you used. In both cases the corporations and the government have "merged", but for VERY different purposes. 


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« Reply #37151 on: September 11, 2024, 01:26:35 PM »
For reasons I can’t explain, I find myself rooting for Wisc. most of the time anyway. 
You're a Fickell fan, yes?
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« Reply #37152 on: September 11, 2024, 01:29:35 PM »
You're a Fickell fan, yes?
For sure, but that was true before he went there. 
it might be on your behalf. 😉

mostly, I think, wisc. always reminded me of the old-school way of doing things cleanly and correctly.  Maybe that’s just my perception, but it’s not something you see much of today. 
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37153 on: September 11, 2024, 01:36:44 PM »
  • That word is far beyond an economic system, encompassing an additional political philosophy. It entails a political philosophy where literally everything exists to support and glorify the State. Everything, from politics, to the economy, to individual action, is in the service of whatever the State requires.
  • The economic portion of that system is not that the corporations and the State have basically merged. It is that the corporations, while nominally keeping the means of production in "private" hands, have little to no autonomy to do anything except what the State tells them to do. And what they do isn't for the benefit of the corporations, it is for the benefit of the State.

The word you're actually looking for is corporatism. That defines something much closer to our current system, where the corporations have (to a large extent) captured the political system with their influence as it comes to helping politicians get elected (or getting them voted out), in such a way that now the government is acting for the benefit of said corporations.

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« Reply #37154 on: September 11, 2024, 01:44:12 PM »
Bloody peasants.

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« Reply #37155 on: September 11, 2024, 01:58:44 PM »
yeah if only he just stuck to the facts like Kahaha. Lol.

I agree though that Trump was a moron talking about pets. Should've just stuck to the facts of the wild animals being killed and butchered for food by illegals (who does this, seriously?) and all the violent crimes being committed by illegals.
There's no doubt the fix is in The CCP flush with $ zillions from US Corps sending jobs there bought both sides out and they're either paid or ordered to put on a clown show - which they did
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