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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36694 on: August 24, 2024, 11:44:11 AM »
True.    Plus, love him or hate him, he is an excellent communicator. 
Nate Silver, who I like a lot, wrote about the stark differences between the Hillary speech and the Kamala speech.

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« Reply #36695 on: August 24, 2024, 11:44:23 AM »
pretty much accurate for any piece of shit little tiny 1,400 sq ft home built in the 40s, 50s, 60s, or 70s in South Florida on the intercostal. bought 'em for 20k worth $2 million now.


https://twitter.com/alifarhat79/status/1827352781121892380

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« Reply #36696 on: August 24, 2024, 11:45:53 AM »
True.    Plus, love him or hate him, he is an excellent communicator. 
We had a few of those until Bush 1. Nixon, Carter, Reagan. Great communicators. Reagan by far the best. Clinton was good. Bush II sucked. Obama was good.

Even Trump was good when he was on point, which was often, before Covid sent him off the rails.
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« Reply #36697 on: August 24, 2024, 11:48:42 AM »
McAfee has WV and VT in his top 4 playoff seeds.
Entertainment only.
that was ridiculous, the other guys looked like they wanted to laugh out loud. 

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« Reply #36698 on: August 24, 2024, 11:50:15 AM »
We had a few of those until Bush 1. Nixon, Carter, Reagan. Great communicators. Reagan by far the best. Clinton was good. Bush II sucked. Obama was good.

Even Trump was good when he was on point, which was often, before Covid sent him off the rails.
I can’t stand to listen to any of them now.  
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« Reply #36699 on: August 24, 2024, 11:51:21 AM »
I can’t stand to listen to any of them now. 
Pretty much.

That's why I wanted Tulsi for GOP VP. Good communicator and not bad on the eyes either. ;)
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« Reply #36700 on: August 24, 2024, 12:03:15 PM »
Obama ran one of the best campaigns ever - Dems have learned to trust that playbook
Lolwut. There is no playbook for Kamala. The playbook is: hide her from the press and debates. That wasn't Obama's playbook.

Obama didn't run one of the best campaigns ever- he ran THE best campaign ever. Obama went out and did interviews, debates, town halls, pressers. Even wrote a book or two. Obama actually....you know...won a primary election and dethroned the Clinton machine in the process. Obama was an excellent communicator, a smooth talking slick son of a gun with a big personality who was great thinking on his feet and could really spar in a hostile interview or debate.

Kamala does not = Obama. Not even close. They are in completely different universes when it comes to skill and talent as orators, debaters....politicians. And Kamala didn't win jackshit or defeat anyone in a primary process. She was hand picked by the party politburo after they forced the sitting President and 2024 party nominee to step down.

The one time Kamala actually tried to get votes and ran for the party nomination in a primary in 2020 was so pathetic she had to drop out before Iowa and won zero delegates. Kamala is as mediocre a politician as it gets, nothing impressive about her at all, her speeches are BLEH. She comes across as a total lightweight. A phony. A hack. Inauthentic. Much like....Hillary Clinton. And Kamala unscripted in an interview or debate or when she has to think on her feet and mentally spar? HOLY FUCKING SHIT she comes across as a complete fucking retard. She literally can't do that. Obama? Masterful at that.

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« Reply #36701 on: August 24, 2024, 12:07:57 PM »

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Kamala does not = Obama.
I'm not saying they are the same person, I'm saying they are running campaigns with similar themes and styles, probably because Clinton's campaign sucked and they stopped listening to those people.

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« Reply #36702 on: August 24, 2024, 12:13:13 PM »
I'm not saying they are the same person, I'm saying they are running campaigns with similar themes and styles, probably because Clinton's campaign sucked and they stopped listening to those people.
they really are't though. Obama's message was hope & change. I'm vastly different than W and all the neo-con warmongering republicans who have wrecked this country the last 8 years. He wasn't even so much attacking the Republicans in power in the White House 24/7- like Kamala is to someone who hasn't been in power.... he was saying I'm different and I'm going to CHANGE things.

Kamala can't really say any of that....she's the sitting VP and the record of the current administration...which fucking sucks....ain't going to be so easy for her to just cut ties to it and hope & change her way away from that. Not to mention her acceptance speech was basically "AMERICA....FUCK YEAH" when it comes to active & future wars and the military. VASTLY different message than Obama who was preaching "I'm going to end these wars, close down gitmo, stop torturing folks".

Kamala's entire campaign is: OrAnGe MaN bADdDDd DerP deRp....uhBoArShUnnN DeRp DeRp....JoY.

Even the pro-Democrat dweebs at the NY Times are starting to turn on her...



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« Reply #36703 on: August 24, 2024, 12:19:05 PM »
they really are't though. Obama's message was hope & change. I'm vastly different than W and all the neo-con warmongering republicans who have wrecked this country the last 8 years. He wasn't even so much attacking the Republicans in power in the White House 24/7- like Kamala is to someone who hasn't been in power.... he was saying I'm different and I'm going to CHANGE things.

Kamala can't really say any of that....she's the sitting VP and the record of the current administration...which fucking sucks....ain't going to be so easy for her to just cut ties to it and hope & change her way away from that. Not to mention her acceptance speech was basically "AMERICA....FUCK YEAH" when it comes to active & future wars and the military. VASTLY different message than Obama who was preaching "I'm going to end these wars, close down gitmo, stop torturing folks".

Kamala's entire campaign is: OrAnGe MaN bADdDDd DerP deRp....uhBoArShUnnN DeRp DeRp....JoY.

Even the pro-Democrat dweebs at the NY Times are starting to turn on her...



Well yeah, it's not the same. But the mesage of optimism, the big tent, big time pro-America energy, it feels similar and has been effective. Also effective is trying to run as the challenger, which is helped by Trump having been president and a pretty unpopular one at that. 

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« Reply #36704 on: August 24, 2024, 12:34:29 PM »
Well yeah, it's not the same. But the mesage of optimism, the big tent, big time pro-America energy, it feels similar and has been effective. Also effective is trying to run as the challenger, which is helped by Trump having been president and a pretty unpopular one at that.
Depends who you ask.

74,000,000 votes beg to differ.

That's more votes than even Obama ever got (69,500,000 in 2008).
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« Reply #36705 on: August 24, 2024, 12:43:55 PM »
Depends who you ask.

74,000,000 votes beg to differ.

That's more votes than even Obama ever got (69,500,000 in 2008).
Also had more people vote against him than any person in history

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« Reply #36706 on: August 24, 2024, 12:57:14 PM »
Some, and also a lot who stayed home, including some of our own here.
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« Reply #36707 on: August 24, 2024, 01:00:28 PM »
Also had more people vote against him than any person in history
yup. largely because of his complete mismanagement of COVID. 

should've never left it up to the states. should've forced every state to stay open and go on with business as usual. 

 

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