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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36680 on: August 24, 2024, 09:40:43 AM »
When your party is basically  incumbent, it is, well, incumbent on you to present a positive image.  Simple politics.  You'll also point to some popular themes that you plan to fix, like "tax the rich", that one always plays well.  It implies that if only we'd "tax the rich", we'd have these trillions of dollars to spend on whatever, voters in particular.

It's best of course if you round up some popular billionaires to say "TAX THE RICH!!!"

Does anyone then notice that we don't ever end up "taxing the rich" and pondering why that is the case?

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36681 on: August 24, 2024, 10:03:15 AM »
I think most of the "liberal appeal", especially to young folks, is the concept of leveling the playing field, taking from those who have "too much" and giving to those who "have too little".  The conservative core message is more "a rising tide lifts all boats", which many don't believe of course.

The problem of course is how to tax "wealth", instead of (or in addition to) income.  This is why it doesn't happen, Democrats may raise the marginal INCOME TAX rates at bit, the wealthy don't care of course.  We end up in a cycle where Reps cut income tax rates, and then Dems might raise it, a little, usually not back to where it was.  The reviled "Bush tax cuts" were still in place after 8 years of Obama with a rather small adjustment.

I tend to focus on revenue, not tax "equity".  Cut taxes, raise taxes, do whatever, and REVENUE seems to remain the same (as percent of GDP).  Revenue is the key.  This leads to some very unpopular historical facts that are counterintuitive.  You really don't increase REVENUE (much, if any) by raising income tax rates.

Hauser wins again.  It's a Laffer to me.

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« Reply #36682 on: August 24, 2024, 10:15:40 AM »
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« Reply #36683 on: August 24, 2024, 10:19:48 AM »
It's not what it once was, but I'm smiling big, watching College Gameday today.
Ditto!
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« Reply #36684 on: August 24, 2024, 10:24:01 AM »
Are the Noles and Wreck playing on a field today, or a pitch?
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« Reply #36685 on: August 24, 2024, 10:28:14 AM »
When I started back following CFB a bit, circa mid 1990s, I would watch Game Day thinking I'd maybe learn something.  Then I stumbled across this place, circa 2003, or an antecedent of this place, and I found I learned a LOT more here than by watching TV.  It's meant to be entertainment I understand, for mostly the casual fan, and it's fun to notice it's "back" of course.  Wekk Zed an all that, or Zero? 

I used to watch Wall Street Week circa 1980 almost every Friday thinking I'd learn something about investing. The program was entertaining.

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« Reply #36687 on: August 24, 2024, 11:26:14 AM »
McAfee has WV and VT in his top 4 playoff seeds.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36688 on: August 24, 2024, 11:37:57 AM »
Obama ran one of the best campaigns ever - Dems have learned to trust that playbook

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« Reply #36689 on: August 24, 2024, 11:39:40 AM »
McAfee has WV and VT in his top 4 playoff seeds.
Entertainment only.
What's wrong with that?

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« Reply #36690 on: August 24, 2024, 11:40:42 AM »
Obama David Axelrod ran one of the best campaigns ever - Dems have learned to trust that playbook
Fixed.
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« Reply #36691 on: August 24, 2024, 11:41:04 AM »
What's wrong with that?
Take it to The Stream!
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« Reply #36692 on: August 24, 2024, 11:41:31 AM »
Obama ran one of the best campaigns ever - Dems have learned to trust that playbook
True.     Plus, love him or hate him, he is an excellent communicator.  
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« Reply #36693 on: August 24, 2024, 11:43:15 AM »
pretty much accurate for any piece of shit little tiny 1,400 sq ft home built in the 40s, 50s, 60s, or 70s in South Florida on the intercostal. bought 'em for 20k worth $2 million now. 


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