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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36610 on: August 23, 2024, 09:33:19 AM »
Sure but you've got to have some degrees for the cute girls.  I mean, I know you know what engineering classes look like...
I was actually quite shocked at how many hotties were in the civil department.
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« Reply #36611 on: August 23, 2024, 09:35:13 AM »

https://twitter.com/fmanjoo/status/1826824708639301717

So far so good.
She didn't talk policies. Maybe Obama hasn't laid them out for her yet.
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« Reply #36612 on: August 23, 2024, 09:49:57 AM »
BTW, high school football starts tonight in the Columbus area. I absolutely love hearing the drums in the distance while sitting on my porch. 

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« Reply #36613 on: August 23, 2024, 09:51:10 AM »
this lady is bat shit looney tunes. but we already knew that. been in Florida for over 20 years now. it's never been more firmly entrenched as a red state since I've lived here. And nowhere is Clinton country. No one likes either one of them. Anywhere.



https://twitter.com/WesternLensman/status/1826759954734407875

I'm no fan of Joy Reid either, but downballot Florida has the potential to be a major Republican liability.

The reason: Abortion protection and state legalization of marijuana are on the ballot. It would be a blockbuster upset if either measure got to 60%+1 and passed, but if those margins end up anywhere near passage that becomes a major Republican problem. Probably not for Trump, but further down the slate? Yup. This is also the reason why Florida is the only place on this US Senate map for Democrats to go on the offensive.

Look at 2022 in Michigan as an example. In 2022, Michigan's abortion protection referendum passed 56-44. The Michigan GOP lost all statewide elections, both chambers of the Legislature for the first time since the mid-80s, and was left broke and awash in infighting.

And this is hardly the only state-level Republican problem that hasn't gone away over the last 30 days.

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« Reply #36614 on: August 23, 2024, 09:54:50 AM »
A lady on FB posted about how great the speech Obama gave was.  i asked her for one thing in it she thought was particularly good, and she responded "Hope.".

OK, then.  Hope.  Some politician gave a speech about hope, and maybe zoning (though I couldn't find that in the transcript I scanned).

How many speeches in history have had some lingering impact?  Even the Gettysburg Address was largely panned at the time, in part for being too short (which I'd view as a plus).  I think the Churchill speech in the HoC had impact.  I'd opine 99.99% do squat, maybe a very brief "Wow, great speech!" comment by partisans, and a week later they couldn't tell you anything about it.

Sound and fury ...

Conventions are to gin up the base, and get the powers that be together to sort out who is going to gran that Ambassadorship to Peru et al.  A President makes over 4,000 appointments, I've read, nearly all of which are PLUM assignments, worth donating however much money one can manage to snare one.  Secretary of Commerce?  Assistant Secretary?  Assistant to the assistant associate Secretary of Homeland?  Brigadier general?

All the judgeship positions?  Not just SCOTUS, but all the myriad others.

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« Reply #36615 on: August 23, 2024, 09:56:04 AM »
Plus you need to learn how to talk to women. Showing up with a block of cheese only works on a few of them
Pretty sure offering a girl a block of cheese and a lager will get most of them in Wisconsin asking for sausage. 

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« Reply #36616 on: August 23, 2024, 09:59:44 AM »
I'm no fan of Joy Reid either, but downballot Florida has the potential to be a major Republican liability.

The reason: Abortion protection and state legalization of marijuana are on the ballot. It would be a blockbuster upset if either measure got to 60%+1 and passed, but if those margins end up anywhere near passage that becomes a major Republican problem. Probably not for Trump, but further down the slate? Yup. This is also the reason why Florida is the only place on this US Senate map for Democrats to go on the offensive.

Look at 2022 in Michigan as an example. In 2022, Michigan's abortion protection referendum passed 56-44. The Michigan GOP lost all statewide elections, both chambers of the Legislature for the first time since the mid-80s, and was left broke and awash in infighting.

And this is hardly the only state-level Republican problem that hasn't gone away over the last 30 days.
I am voting yes on the marijuana passage. Hate the stuff.  But it helps a lot of people.  
I am also pro choice.  But neither of those 2 issues impact how I judge and vote for individual candidates- because they are not the leading issues.  

Inflation, economy, how we handle immigration, and crime.   

I mirror most voters on what the top issues are, per every poll I have seen. 

The difference is- I will actually vote on the issues, not the media, memes, fear, bluster, etc.    and on all of those issues, I could not support a single Dem on the ticket.  
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« Reply #36617 on: August 23, 2024, 10:07:11 AM »
Some voters are near single issue voters of course, quite a few I think, and the dominant "single issue" for them is abortion, pro or con.

Most of my "friends" were what I'd call "socially liberal and fiscally conservative", and they'd vote for either party depending.  


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« Reply #36618 on: August 23, 2024, 10:11:28 AM »
I think the idea is that both issues will trend heavier to drive voter turnout for voters who REALLY care about those issues, and that there is enough of a correlation between opinion on those issues and party affiliation that it'll boost D turnout more than R turnout, giving a boost to the Ds.

Much like in 2004 there was a concerted R strategy to get gay marriage initiatives on the ballot in many states, thinking that the people who were REALLY against gay marriage would be highly motivated to make it to the polls, and that the turnout advantage would help the Rs. 

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« Reply #36619 on: August 23, 2024, 10:20:25 AM »
I am voting yes on the marijuana passage. Hate the stuff.  But it helps a lot of people. 
I am also pro choice.  But neither of those 2 issues impact how I judge and vote for individual candidates- because they are not the leading issues. 

Inflation, economy, how we handle immigration, and crime. 

I mirror most voters on what the top issues are, per every poll I have seen.

The difference is- I will actually vote on the issues, not the media, memes, fear, bluster, etc.    and on all of those issues, I could not support a single Dem on the ticket. 
You are me.

Except for that buckeye thing...
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« Reply #36620 on: August 23, 2024, 10:20:44 AM »
Pretty sure offering a girl a block of cheese and a lager will get most of them in Wisconsin asking for sausage.
Worked for me.
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« Reply #36621 on: August 23, 2024, 10:28:55 AM »
BTW, high school football starts tonight in the Columbus area. I absolutely love hearing the drums in the distance while sitting on my porch.
I could always hear it growing up, and didn't realize how much I missed it, until we moved into our current house in 2017 and the high school was attached to the other side of our neighborhood.

Flip side, junior year I had a class in the building across the street from the football practice field.  And during practice to get them ready one day, the marching band played hail to the victors over and over for like 45 straight minutes.  I may have even still been a UM fan back then, but you can't listen to any marching band play any fight song for 45 straight minutes without wanting to blow your brains out

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« Reply #36622 on: August 23, 2024, 10:32:17 AM »
There is a quite large HS stadium about a mile from me and I can hear their drums a bit.

The stadium was used as a training site for athletes during the 1996 Olympic Games, and occasionally hosts public practices for the Atlanta Falcons. Henderson Stadium was designed by Richard Aeck, and is considered a masterpiece of modern engineering expression.[1] For the fall of 2009, Henderson Stadium was closed due to renovation. All games were played at Lakewood Stadium and the Georgia Dome.
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« Reply #36623 on: August 23, 2024, 10:39:08 AM »
Trump 'probably wins' if election is about policy, CNN host says

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6360881796112


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