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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Mdot21

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36176 on: August 19, 2024, 03:32:13 PM »
This is obviously nuts.

Claim, claim, claim.  Nothing to support it or back it up.
Obama was as moderate as it gets in this century, but he's a snake.


FFS
it's obviously not that nuts. read a little bit, why don't you? the reporting on Obama's meddling and control over the Democratic party dating back to the 2016 election is wide raging and very detailed.

why in the actual fuck would Obama being a moderate mean therefore he's not a snake? both things can be true. Obama was a centrist moderate Democrat. he was basically.....a Republican. And yes he most definitely was and is a snake. one of the biggest pieces of shit human beings ever to be President, but that isn't saying a lot as most of them are giant turds as far as being a human being goes.

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« Reply #36177 on: August 19, 2024, 03:40:54 PM »
OK, question.

If something is a good idea and you were on the wrong side of it, you're supposed to stay on the wrong side of it?
You don't make the self-correction?
Sticking with the bad idea is better than flip-flopping?


What sort of idiocy is that??
there's a MASSIVE difference between genuinely reflecting on something, being open-minded and listening to all-sides of an argument and then actually changing your mind and.....

looking at which way the wind is blowing and then saying whatever the f*ck you have to when you have to say it in order to score brownie points- even if you are completely contradicting yourself and looking like an idiot. 

Kamala Harris is doing the latter. 

Anyone who cannot see this....is retarded. Congrats on being a retard I guess? 



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« Reply #36178 on: August 19, 2024, 03:43:40 PM »
FIFY
yeah no shit lmao. dude is looney tunes if he thinks every politician doesn't deal in that sort of bullshit. 

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« Reply #36179 on: August 19, 2024, 03:59:38 PM »
I am a bit concerned about Republicans trying to steal the election by basically refusing to honor any results and trying to throw it to friendly state legislatures instead. We'll see how realistic that is. Clearly, they are going to try.
yeah so all that jazz didn't work when Trump was the actual sitting President and had actual awesome Presidential powers because: our form of government has constraints on Presidential power. he's a President, not a dictator. well right now he's not a sitting President, he's just a party nominee he has no actual power over the federal government. so explain to me how they succeed this time around, let alone even try.

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« Reply #36180 on: August 19, 2024, 04:05:53 PM »
If they could get rid of the special classifications for tipped workers, the "no tax on tips!" thing might be pretty good for consumers and workers. But more likely everyone will become a tipped worker.
This!

It is a stupid gimmick that apparently Trump and later Harris proposed. If we actually did it, everyone would try to convert taxable salary into untaxed tips.

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« Reply #36181 on: August 19, 2024, 04:07:54 PM »
Lol I am amazed at the amount of time and effort people put into avoiding the obvious. Like, we need to ignore what people actually say and do in favor of ballot harvesting and Hunter Biden's laptop. Come live in reality with the rest of us.
It astounds me that you talk about Hunter's laptop and ballot harvesting as apparently unreal then ask others to join reality. 

Ah, Hunter's laptop was and is real. It was hidden but not unreal. Are you actually questioning the reality of ballot harvesting too?

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36182 on: August 19, 2024, 05:42:51 PM »
yeah so all that jazz didn't work when Trump was the actual sitting President and had actual awesome Presidential powers because: our form of government has constraints on Presidential power. he's a President, not a dictator. well right now he's not a sitting President, he's just a party nominee he has no actual power over the federal government. so explain to me how they succeed this time around, let alone even try.
The original goal was to basically throw out the vote and instead have the House chose a president, a process friendly to Trump. It was sort of off the cuff last time around and let's be honest, anything requiring time, effort, and forethought wasn't Trump's specialty when it came to running the executive branch.

But now they've had some time to think about it and everyone more or less understands. If Trump wins a state, good to go. If he doesn't win the state, the vote is phony and should be thrown out. Places with Trump friendly legislatures and executives (Georgia) might be able to aid in that endeavor. Plus they may have more friends in Congress willing to go down that road. Certainly, it would need to be a group effort.

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« Reply #36183 on: August 19, 2024, 05:46:57 PM »
It astounds me that you talk about Hunter's laptop and ballot harvesting as apparently unreal then ask others to join reality.

Ah, Hunter's laptop was and is real. It was hidden but not unreal. Are you actually questioning the reality of ballot harvesting too?
Hunter's laptop was real, was probably a bigger story than it could have been because of the media kerfluffle, and four years later has had no impact on anything. Ballot harvesting is probably real and practiced by both parties. Also real - the FBI endless "investigating" dopey charges against Hillary Clinton. None of it has anything to do with my original point about the concern of Trump and friends taking another go at stealing the election.

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« Reply #36184 on: August 19, 2024, 07:08:45 PM »
yeah so all that jazz didn't work when Trump was the actual sitting President and had actual awesome Presidential powers because: our form of government has constraints on Presidential power. he's a President, not a dictator. well right now he's not a sitting President, he's just a party nominee he has no actual power over the federal government. so explain to me how they succeed this time around, let alone even try.
For me, the trying in 2020 is the issue. Not even so much the lawsuits. We saw lawsuits in 2000. Sometimes you have to go to court. But after 60 cases where only 1 got a ruling in his favor, it was over. 

It was more that when everything else completely failed, and it was clear that he lost, he continued to push. The fake slate of electors. Pressuring Pence to not certify. Pressuring Republican lawmakers to try to contest the electors. Pressuring for ANYTHING that would throw the election into the HoR. 

And then when all that failed, just making a few statements that suggested the rally attendees that he just happened to assemble not far from the Capitol, the wonderful patriots who had assembled gallows to hang Mike Pence, go down there to the Capitol and "if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country any more". 

And then has spent the last 4 years continuing to claim the election is stolen. And when asked, in the national debate, if he'd accept the results of the election, said “If it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely.” Which, for anyone who knows Trump, knows that means "If I win, I'll accept it. If I don't, it must not be fair and legal." Just like Trump was stating a couple weeks ago how wonderful his poll numbers were looking, because he was ahead, but now he and Vance are claiming that all the polls are fake, because they're not. 

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« Reply #36185 on: August 19, 2024, 08:33:14 PM »


Kamala Harris is doing the latter.

Anyone who cannot see this....is retarded. Congrats on being a retard I guess?



Just proclaiming something doesn't make it so.  THAT'S kind of retarded.  
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« Reply #36186 on: August 19, 2024, 09:05:34 PM »


And then has spent the last 4 years continuing to claim the election is stolen. And when asked, in the national debate, if he'd accept the results of the election, said “If it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely.” Which, for anyone who knows Trump, knows that means "If I win, I'll accept it. If I don't, it must not be fair and legal." Just like Trump was stating a couple weeks ago how wonderful his poll numbers were looking, because he was ahead, but now he and Vance are claiming that all the polls are fake, because they're not.
I really dont see anything wrong with that answer
Trump is not in the habbit of giving away his rights and to commit to saying the election is fare ahead of time is possibly waving any objection which he has a right to do if he sees it that way

Im going to paint your house would you commit to paying me now no questions asked

I dont think so
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« Reply #36187 on: August 20, 2024, 06:07:41 AM »
Hunter's laptop was real, was probably a bigger story than it could have been because of the media kerfluffle, and four years later has had no impact on anything. Ballot harvesting is probably real and practiced by both parties. Also real - the FBI endless "investigating" dopey charges against Hillary Clinton. None of it has anything to do with my original point about the concern of Trump and friends taking another go at stealing the election.
Hunter Trump would be behind bars. So would Hillary Trump.

The DOJ is the Department of Joke.

The FBI is even worse.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36188 on: August 20, 2024, 08:02:59 AM »
Places with Trump friendly legislatures and executives (Georgia) might be able to aid in that endeavor. 
I don't think Kemp and Trump are friends.  At all.  

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36189 on: August 20, 2024, 08:39:20 AM »

Trump is not in the habbit of giving away his rights
He doesn't need to. A jury of his peers has already done so.

 

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