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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Honestbuckeye

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36148 on: August 18, 2024, 09:01:10 PM »
Well you know just find those votes you need...or try to shut down the vote. I swear people just block 2020 out of their minds
I think he was specifically referring to 2020.  You know- the broken water pipe that shut down counting in Georgia, the illegal blocking of Republicans viewing the counting in Detroit, the nearly 1000 local voting laws changed via court ( versus legislative branch)to allow brazenly lax id requirements and very liberal timeframes for counting mail in votes.  
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« Reply #36149 on: August 18, 2024, 09:02:11 PM »
Ah yes the reality where what people say and do are no match for conspiracy theories.
You started this conversation with your conspiracy theory.  
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« Reply #36150 on: August 18, 2024, 09:02:52 PM »
apparently, NO ONE gives a shit about Hunter Biden's laptop

what might it have to do with Kamala and Trump???

I suppose we could trudge up slick Willy and a cum stained dress but, why???

or watergate, but why???
Or Republicans trying to steal elections. 2020 is ancient history why do people think they haven't learned their lesson???

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« Reply #36151 on: August 18, 2024, 09:05:57 PM »
You started this conversation with your conspiracy theory. 
It's not a conspiracy theory. It was Trump's clear goal in 2020. Republicans then went on a crusade to change voting laws, some of which were successful. This will be the first presidential election under these laws, and the question will be whether Republicans attempt to subvert the vote. I don't know how the law will aid them and whether they can competently do it. I do know they will absolutely try.

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« Reply #36152 on: August 18, 2024, 09:07:27 PM »
Or Republicans trying to steal elections. 2020 is ancient history why do people think they haven't learned their lesson???
You and Hillary lol.  Your playbook is in need of refreshing.   Do a bad thing, and cry and whine that the other guy is the one who did it. As an attorney- it’s not surprising that’s your MO. 
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« Reply #36153 on: August 18, 2024, 09:08:54 PM »
I think he was specifically referring to 2020.  You know- the broken water pipe that shut down counting in Georgia, the illegal blocking of Republicans viewing the counting in Detroit, the nearly 1000 local voting laws changed via court ( versus legislative branch)to allow brazenly lax id requirements and very liberal timeframes for counting mail in votes. 
How about the charge to hang Mike Pence if he wouldn't overturn the election? Or the dozens of lawsuits to overturn the election? Or Trump personally calling people to ask them to find more voted for him? 

But hey there was a broken water pipe that is basically the same thing.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36154 on: August 18, 2024, 09:16:20 PM »
I think he was specifically referring to 2020.  You know- the broken water pipe that shut down counting in Georgia, the illegal blocking of Republicans viewing the counting in Detroit, the nearly 1000 local voting laws changed via court ( versus legislative branch)to allow brazenly lax id requirements and very liberal timeframes for counting mail in votes. 
You distance yourself from Fox News and then post this crap.  Maybe tune in?  It's right up your alley.  
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« Reply #36155 on: August 18, 2024, 09:30:02 PM »
You distance yourself from Fox News and then post this crap.  Maybe tune in?  It's right up your alley. 
Facts are hard for you to deal with aren’t they.  
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« Reply #36156 on: August 18, 2024, 09:42:59 PM »
Honestly the weirdest thing is that nearly everyone agrees that Trump is a disgusting cad who turns off lots of people, but by God there must be a conspiracy afoot that he would lose a popularity contest

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« Reply #36157 on: August 18, 2024, 10:03:06 PM »
Honestly the weirdest thing is that nearly everyone agrees that Trump is a disgusting cad who turns off lots of people, but by God there must be a conspiracy afoot that he would lose a popularity contest
actually- you got this right.  except for the conspiracy.  He has, and will again lose a popularity contest. And he deserves to. Even if his opponent is a radical lefty liberal with virtually no significant good accomplishments and an inability to form coherent sentences. 

But you- specifically you, spread falsehoods about things that have happened that have nothing to do with Trumps shitty personality or in some cases, nothing do with him at all. Lets talk policy.  

we know you are anti law enforcement.  we know you are pro open border.  We know you favor more government control.  You have made those positions abundantly clear.  That is your right.    Most people oppose those things. And even though they view  those items more in line with Trump and against his opponent, they will vote for her anyway.  But in so many cases- it is because the MSM, and people like you, spread falsehood.

The 2020 election was not stolen.  If  court decides on Monday that assault is Legal in their state, and you assault someone on Tuesday, it is legal.  So yes- the election was legal.

To get there- you had literally over 1000 local laws changed under the guise of  "Oh NO Covid".  Many of these were not changed legally. They were done via court decisions as opposed to the correct process- legislation.

Courts Rule States Did Not Follow Their Own Election Laws In 2020 (thefederalist.com)

So now many Republican areas are seeking to get these idiotic laws which kill election integrity- changed back to what they were.

So you know it is disingenuous for you to say they are trying to steal an election. That's like saying:

Person A broke the window at person B's house and stole his bread. Now Person B is putting up bars on his windows, and you are crying "person A is being mistreated       
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36158 on: August 18, 2024, 11:24:50 PM »
You're in a different universe than the rest of us.
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« Reply #36159 on: August 19, 2024, 06:14:59 AM »
You're in a different universe than the rest of us.
You mean the universe where you and Sam are.  From the rest of us.   Thankfully.   
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« Reply #36160 on: August 19, 2024, 07:20:20 AM »

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So you know it is disingenuous for you to say they are trying to steal an election.
I don't know why you refuse to live in reality. Trump attempted to steal the election in 2020. That's not some sort of conspiracy theory - he basically said he was going to do it and then tried. It was a clumsy attempt, to be sure. Rudy Giuliani is a pour choice to lead the charge. Personally calling the secretary of state to ask for more votes isn't a master spy level of sabotage. Calling on Mike Pence to personally overturn the entire election did happen.


However, I have seen no evidence that if Trump loses in the traditional sense that he won't try again. Further, his lackeys have led the charge that you cannot believe the vote if it says Trump didn't win. They changed laws in some places (notably Georgia). I imagine they will attempt to steal again, this time perhaps backed up by that change in laws. I don't know if that will help them or not, but I am a bit concerned it could.

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« Reply #36161 on: August 19, 2024, 07:21:52 AM »

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we know you are anti law enforcement.  we know you are pro open border.  We know you favor more government control. 
By the way, if you are pro law enforcement and anti open border, who do you think gets more control under your preferred ideology? 

 

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