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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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847badgerfan

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #35322 on: July 30, 2024, 10:39:44 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 30, 2024, 10:30:04 AM
Oh, yes.

I meant the link was to “crime” stories. And some of those were sort of crime adjacent.

I think the industry as a whole struggles to find good help these days.
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« Reply #35323 on: July 30, 2024, 10:44:55 AM »

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Are you actually this dense?
See, you write a lot, and insult me, but then completely fail to refute the point. How does crime going up under Trump, which you concede, mean crime hasn't gone down under Biden, which you also concede? How does that make me dense?
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« Reply #35324 on: July 30, 2024, 11:01:25 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 30, 2024, 10:44:55 AM
See, you write a lot, and insult me, but then completely fail to refute the point. How does crime going up under Trump, which you concede, mean crime hasn't gone down under Biden, which you also concede? How does that make me dense?
So the BLM crime wave was Trump's fault.  

I guess it was indirectly.  The left pushed it to rile up support for their side to take him out but this is still a very interesting take.  Your side has blood on their hands for the aforementioned 1,872 incremental increase in homicides.  Own it.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #35325 on: July 30, 2024, 11:03:19 AM »
I don't think any President has much to do with crime rates.
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« Reply #35326 on: July 30, 2024, 11:15:03 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on July 30, 2024, 11:01:25 AM
So the BLM crime wave was Trump's fault. 

I guess it was indirectly.  The left pushed it to rile up support for their side to take him out but this is still a very interesting take.  Your side has blood on their hands for the aforementioned 1,872 incremental increase in homicides.  Own it. 
I didn't say it was Trump's fault, nor do I say it is Biden's victory. The initial claim was about crime policies, so I pointed out some crime statistics. I don't think the jump in homicides was due solely to BLM or COVID or "the media" or government or any one side. But if we are going to talk crime then we should at least know what the numbers are, which many here are adamantly denying.
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« Reply #35327 on: July 30, 2024, 11:18:35 AM »
Crime in Midtown Atlanta Has Declined to a 25-Year Low (shorthandstories.com)

Reported crime here is down even as the population has increased.
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« Reply #35328 on: July 30, 2024, 11:26:29 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 30, 2024, 11:15:03 AM
I didn't say it was Trump's fault, nor do I say it is Biden's victory. The initial claim was about crime policies, so I pointed out some crime statistics. I don't think the jump in homicides was due solely to BLM or COVID or "the media" or government or any one side. But if we are going to talk crime then we should at least know what the numbers are, which many here are adamantly denying.

Except you don't know what the numbers are.

Everyone ought to have a look at this.



https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs 
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« Reply #35329 on: July 30, 2024, 11:47:23 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 30, 2024, 11:18:35 AM
Crime in Midtown Atlanta Has Declined to a 25-Year Low (shorthandstories.com)

Reported crime here is down even as the population has increased.
Well check residentual income just might have something to do with that. They've rehabbed the area is my understanding being some what upscalenow is that correct?
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« Reply #35330 on: July 30, 2024, 11:49:23 AM »
I'm sure those taking about crime rates are quite happy to vote for the prosecutor instead of the convicted felon. 
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« Reply #35331 on: July 30, 2024, 11:51:41 AM »
Oh, c'mon...
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« Reply #35332 on: July 30, 2024, 11:55:15 AM »
Quote from: GopherRock on July 30, 2024, 11:49:23 AM
I'm sure those taking about crime rates are quite happy to vote for the prosecutor instead of the convicted felon.

Except the prosecutor doesn't want to do her job.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/kfile-kamala-harris-praised-defund-the-police-movement-in-june-2020/index.html 
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #35333 on: July 30, 2024, 12:07:54 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 30, 2024, 11:47:23 AM
Well check residentual income just might have something to do with that. They've rehabbed the area is my understanding being some what upscalenow is that correct?
Midtown is now upscale, yes, but crime rates in the city of Atlanta are reported to be down a lot also.

The 2 bed room apartments around here hit $3K a month easily.  Some condos are over a million, most I'd say are half that.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #35334 on: July 30, 2024, 12:17:00 PM »
I've concluded:

If you lean left:

The border is under control.
Crime is down.
The economy is sound
Our stature in the world is solid.

If you lean right:

The border is wide open.
Crime is horrible.
The economy is bad for a lot of folks and about to get worse.
We are a laughing stock.

Any "facts" are "interpreted" (or ignored) with those things in mind as they cannot change, so any "facts" have to change.

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« Reply #35335 on: July 30, 2024, 12:50:51 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on July 30, 2024, 11:49:23 AM
I'm sure those taking about crime rates are quite happy to vote for the prosecutor instead of the convicted felon.
Yes. The one bailing out violent criminals, encouraging riots, and wanting to make illegal immigration legal.   😂😂😂.  Some prosecutor.  
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