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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #34062 on: July 09, 2024, 08:33:32 AM »
Corey A. DeAngelis, school choice evangelist on X: "This is the president of the nation's largest teachers union. Insane. https://t.co/jepTF9jxEr" / X
Corey A. DeAngelis, school choice evangelist on X: "This is the president of the nation's largest teachers union. Insane. https://t.co/jepTF9jxEr" / X
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« Reply #34063 on: July 09, 2024, 08:45:03 AM »
I don't see how it's any danger to "Society" if I keep tabs on how folks out there appear to be thinking.  But maybe I'm wrong.  I could be some covert danger to society and not know it.
it's not dangerous to keep tabs on what folks are thinking

it's dangerous for the media the change the ways people are thinking with false and exaggerated reporting of the issues
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #34064 on: July 09, 2024, 08:59:01 AM »
it's not dangerous to keep tabs on what folks are thinking

it's dangerous for the media the change the ways people are thinking with false and exaggerated reporting of the issues
To some extent, I view this as the/a main job of "the media", both today and in the past.  I'm not saying I like it, I don't, but it's reality.  Nearly everything reported is hyperbole, or missing context, or simply "drama".  A news outlet that doesn't do this won't garner may eyeballs.  

I see it even among the business new channels I monitor.  Some "analyst" upgrades stock X and the price goes up that day.  OK, I get it, but there often is missing context.  I think in this case the readers don't much care about context even though their money is at stake.

Hard reality is often subtle and nuanced and has significant but complex context, and most "new media" fails to provide it, and few would read or listen if it did.  So, how people THINK about a topic is perhaps more important than "reality".  

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« Reply #34065 on: July 09, 2024, 09:06:01 AM »
I'm seeing a ton of (negative) commentary in social media about Project 2025.  I found this summary at MSNBC of all places.  It's pretty consistent with what else I've read and less hyperbolic than much of what I've seen posted in SM as memes.

What to know about Project 2025, a plan for Trump’s second term from the far-right (msnbc.com)

The memes get pretty "extreme", not surprisingly.


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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #34066 on: July 09, 2024, 10:09:05 AM »
If Russia armed Cuba with missiles, and Cuba in turn fired them upon US soil (like on my house), what would be the US reaction?
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« Reply #34067 on: July 09, 2024, 10:10:35 AM »
Cuba would be in BIG trouble
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« Reply #34068 on: July 09, 2024, 10:11:34 AM »
Cuba would be in BIG trouble
Of course. What about Russia?
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« Reply #34069 on: July 09, 2024, 10:12:02 AM »
If Russia armed Cuba with missiles, and Cuba in turn fired them upon US soil (like on my house), what would be the US reaction?
Nuclear tipped missiles?  That would be bad.

We should be able to take them out before they were fired, in theory.

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« Reply #34070 on: July 09, 2024, 10:12:54 AM »
Russian missiles fired from anywhere on US territory would mean we'd retaliate, probably trying to take out any remaining nuclear missiles Russia had anywhere around the world.

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« Reply #34071 on: July 09, 2024, 10:14:45 AM »
Nuclear tipped missiles?  That would be bad.

We should be able to take them out before they were fired, in theory.
Conventional. I should have specified.

Kinda like we are arming Ukraine, and Ukraine firing upon Russian soils.
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« Reply #34072 on: July 09, 2024, 10:15:29 AM »
Conventional. I should have specified.

Kinda like we are arming Ukraine, and Ukraine firing upon Russian soils.
There's a very big, very important difference. 

We haven't invaded Cuba. 

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« Reply #34073 on: July 09, 2024, 10:18:58 AM »
There's a very big, very important difference.

We haven't invaded Cuba.
That matters little in my hypothetical.
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« Reply #34074 on: July 09, 2024, 10:21:37 AM »
If Russia armed Cuba with missiles, and Cuba in turn fired them upon US soil (like on my house), what would be the US reaction?
US would turn Cuba into a f*cking parking lot.

Last time the Russians tried that in 1962 it nearly led to all-out nuclear war and the end of mankind. Probably the closest we've ever been to nuclear war.

Amazes me that people don't understand what we'd do if shoe was on the other foot. You really think we'd allow Mexico or Brazil to enter into a military alliance with China or Russia and let them build military bases and house troops anywhere near us, install missile systems anywhere near us, station naval warships and aircraft carriers anywhere near us, do joint military anywhere exercises near us? LOL.

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« Reply #34075 on: July 09, 2024, 10:24:43 AM »
There's a very big, very important difference.

We haven't invaded Cuba.
a) it's a hypothetical.

b) if the Russians overthrew their government, installed a puppet government, armed & funded them to the teeth and kept pushing for them to join a military alliance 

we would....

bomb the ever loving sh*t out of Cuba and invade Cuba to "bring them freedom and democracy!" .... at the barrel of a gun.

whose being naive, kay?

 

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