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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Cincydawg

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33208 on: June 18, 2024, 11:25:51 AM »
I mostly ignore his profane rants, they aren't worth reading, or rebutting.
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« Reply #33209 on: June 18, 2024, 11:27:50 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 18, 2024, 11:23:50 AM
The other NATO leaders knew any Trump threat to withdraw from NATO was silly blister, because no President can do  that.

His comment that Putin could do "whatever the Hell he wants" was also, in my view, very stupid.  Trump bluster is not my way of thinking at all.

And NATO countries obviously don't somehow OWE the US something because they underspent.  They have their own arms producers.  Germany has pretty good gear, as does France and the UK and Sweden. 
Trump was bashing NATO for not committing to the 2% spending goal and threatening to pull the US out and sh*t talking all of them to their faces in NATO summits/meetings and telling the Germans to their faces they are owned by Russia because you buy all of your energy from them and why are you doing this second pipeline yada yada yada. They laughed in his face. Turns out, he was right. 

yes the other EU countries have arms producers, but the majority of arms sold to those countries in NATO that buy arms buy them from...the US. 
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« Reply #33210 on: June 18, 2024, 11:27:54 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 18, 2024, 11:25:51 AM
I mostly ignore his profane rants, they aren't worth reading, or rebutting.
So silly, not sure who he thinks he's convincing.

But that's always how Russian propaganda has worked.  They so tightly control what their own public hears and sees, that they don't realize how puerile their obvious fake propaganda comes across to people who are capable of thinking for themselves.
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« Reply #33211 on: June 18, 2024, 11:28:43 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2024, 11:27:54 AM
So silly, not sure who he thinks he's convincing.

But that's always how Russian propaganda has worked.  They so tightly control what their own public hears and sees, that they don't realize how puerile their obvious fake propaganda comes across to people who are capable of thinking for themselves.
Lmfao. Get a grip. JFC. Gtfo with this bullshit. 
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« Reply #33212 on: June 18, 2024, 11:29:29 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2024, 11:24:35 AM
Tell me about how your wildly stupid and ignorant Russian propagandist bullshit takes tell me you know nothing about the situation.

At least we know dickface putin's checks are still clearing, or this troll-bot would go elsewhere.
yikes. how little do you actually know about the situation? 
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« Reply #33213 on: June 18, 2024, 11:30:18 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 18, 2024, 11:25:51 AM
I mostly ignore his profane rants, they aren't worth reading, or rebutting.

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« Reply #33214 on: June 18, 2024, 11:30:21 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 18, 2024, 08:18:35 AM
Abortion can be codified. But they won't do it because it will leave one less issue out of election season.

The left has weaponized abortion. It is what it is.
Can you explain this?

Abortion was a sort of political non-issue for decades since Roe. It was a SCOTUS determination so the only REAL fight was based on who would be President and appoint SCOTUS justices. The right promised to appoint people who would overturn Roe, while the left promised to appoint people who would uphold Roe. Beyond that, nothing happened at the Federal level and only battling around the margins occurred at the state level.

The Right got what they wanted, Roe was overturned, and now this is a political hot potato in MANY states. Isn't this what they were asking for? I don't understand how the left has weaponized it, other than potentially realizing it's a wedge issue that Republicans are going to lose on, so they're pushing it hard, likely for boosting turnout.
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« Reply #33215 on: June 18, 2024, 11:30:26 AM »
The tactic also is to claim "we" are being mislead by our media (which is a hoot in relative terms).  "They" see through all this propaganda and know what's REALLY afoot.

Then they of course call "us" stupid.  Often as not, what "they" purport is so absurd it can't be refuted, and isn't worth the effort.
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« Reply #33216 on: June 18, 2024, 11:31:10 AM »
Russian Troll-Bot Go Home

Seriously. You're not convincing anyone here.  Try somewhere else.  Texas A&M message boards are full of backwoods conservative conspiracy theory nutjob idiots, you'd go over brilliantly with that gang.

Edit: No offense, Gigem.  I'm sure you're not one of them. :)
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« Reply #33217 on: June 18, 2024, 11:34:32 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 18, 2024, 11:30:26 AM
The tactic also is to claim "we" are being mislead by our media (which is a hoot in relative terms).  "They" see through all this propaganda and know what's REALLY afoot.

Then they of course call "us" stupid.  Often as not, what "they" purport is so absurd it can't be refuted, and isn't worth the effort.
a) US is one of the most propagandized nations in the entire world. it's astounding just how effective said propaganda is and how dumb Americans are. 

b) read manufacturing consent by Noam Chomsky. you might learn a thing or two about the nature of US media and propaganda. 

c) something like 5 major multi-billion dollar corporations own something like 90+% of all TV, radio, & print media. every single one of these corporations exist to maintain it's own power, serve power, and turn a profit- of course they will rarely if ever upset the apple cart and actually speak truth to power. 
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« Reply #33218 on: June 18, 2024, 11:36:29 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2024, 11:31:10 AM
Russian Troll-Bot Go Home

Seriously. You're not convincing anyone here.  Try somewhere else.  Texas A&M message boards are full of backwoods conservative conspiracy theory nutjob idiots, you'd go over brilliantly with that gang.

Edit: No offense, Gigem.  I'm sure you're not one of them. :)
:043:

get a f**cking grip pal. Russian Troll-Bot? Hillary Clinton? Is that you? 
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« Reply #33219 on: June 18, 2024, 11:39:26 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 18, 2024, 11:36:29 AM
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get a f**cking grip pal. Russian Troll-Bot? Hillary Clinton? Is that you?

LMGDMFSBAO

You actually really made me laugh.  Nobody's ever confused my views with those of Hillary Clinton, but I suppose there's a first time for everything.
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« Reply #33220 on: June 18, 2024, 11:42:17 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2024, 11:39:26 AM
LMGDMFSBAO

You actually really made me laugh.  Nobody's ever confused my views with those of Hillary Clinton, but I suppose there's a first time for everything.
I don't confuse your views with Hillary Clinton. it was merely a joke.

the joke referencing Hillary Clinton claiming she lost a Presidential election to a semi-retired property developer/sh*t talking former TV show game host because of Russian-Bots on the internet, and not because she was one of the most unlikable and despicable human beings to run for President ever.
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« Reply #33221 on: June 18, 2024, 11:47:56 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 18, 2024, 11:42:17 AM
I don't confuse your views with Hillary Clinton. it was merely a joke.

the joke referencing Hillary Clinton claiming she lost a Presidential election to a semi-retired property developer/sh*t talking former TV show game host because of Russian-Bots on the internet, and not because she was one of the most unlikable and despicable human beings to run for President ever.
Both can be true.  The Russian troll-bots were certainly active then, as they are now.  

How much did it influence anyone?  Probably not much.  As I've pointed out here, Russian troll-bot tactics are largely immature and ineffective.
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