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I'm not a hard-core isolationist either, but my country comes first.

As for helping Europe protect their borders?

I'd rather we protect our own.

THIS!

What Trump *SHOULD* have done was to veto any spending for ANY other country's border until his wall was financed and justified it by going directly to the people with the argument that we are not going to spend money on other countries' borders until we secure our own border.  The Congresspeople who want to go off on foreign adventures and invite unlimited immigrants would have been in an impossible position because Trump's side of that argument polls reasonably well among Democrats and phenomenally well among R's and I's. 

Obama jawboned the same way, as did Bush.  What Presidents have said had no impact.  Crimea and Ukraine did.

I personally do not think Trump had anything to do with it.  And the way Trump walked about it was absurd, again, in my view.

Trump pushes NATO allies to spend more, but so did Obama and Bush (cnbc.com)

Trump repeatedly spoke about defense spending as if NATO countries owed the United States the money they had not decided to spend on their own domestic defense budgets, and as if the 2 percent of GDP that is the target for each country all goes into one pot and the U.S. has been paying other countries’ share of the pot.

“Frankly, many countries owe us a tremendous amount of money for many years back, where they’re delinquent, as far as I’m concerned, because the United States has had to pay for them,” Trump said on Wednesday morning. “So if you go back 10 or 20 years, you’ll just add it all up. It’s massive amounts of money is owed,” he said.

In reality, none of this money is “owed” to any other country. These are domestic spending levels, or money that NATO countries decide to spend on their own individual militaries. Not money they pay to anyone else.

They'd rather be at war than be a Russian province.  That's their decision, not yours, and sure as shit not Donald Trump's.

Lulz. They are an American province and have been so since 2014, and that wasn't their decision. It was the Obama state department/CIA decision to stage a coup, overthrow a democratically elected government and then handpick the puppet government that followed. And yes that war is in large part our decision. We fund it. Still. We f*cked around and found out in a region that means absolutely nothing to us and has nothing to do with the US and created a situation which ultimately led to where things stand now. This is a war of US leadership choice that the United States wanted in the first place and one that it continues to fund, and it's a war that the US leadership could end in a split second. Less than a split second.

Abortion can be codified. But they won't do it because it will leave one less issue out of election season.

The left has weaponized abortion. It is what it is.