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I don't think cutting off supply is really possible, or practicable.  It's too easy to smuggle.  And it's making bad actors very wealthy.

Fentanyl and major fentanyl analogs. Fentanyl is an extremely powerful analgesic, 50–100-times more potent than morphine. Its LD₅₀ is of 3.1 mg/kg in rats and 0.03 mg/kg in monkeys. The LD₅₀ in humans is unknown.

If we figure 1 mg/kg in humans, and an average human weighs say 80 kg, geesh, it's a smidgen.

Oddly enough, it's Schedule 2 while MJ is Schedule 1.  (This is mostly because fentanyl has some therapeutic value.)

The Fentanyl Story (jpain.org)


F entanyl (Fig 1), a potent synthetic m receptor–stimulating opioid, was first synthesized by Dr. Paul Janssen and the Janssen Company of Beerse, Belgium, in December 1960.45,46 The drug was first used as an intravenous analgesic clinically in Europe in 1963 and in the United States (as a component of Innovar) in 1968 and since then has become one of the world’s most important and frequently used opioid analgesics. Today, fentanyl is the opioid most often used intravenously for intraoperative analgesia in the United States, the rest of North America, Central and South America, throughout Europe, the Middle East, and most of developed Asia and Africa. In some of the world, the fentanyl patch is often used for the chronic pain of all forms of cancer as well as the persistent, intense pain from many noncancerous maladies.45,46 In the last 20 years, more than a half dozen rapid-onset transmucosal fentanyl preparations have been developed, approved, launched, and popularized for ‘‘breakthrough’’ pain syndromes.46 Few physicians practicing anesthesia or managing all sorts of patients with chronic pain with the many fentanyl preparations now available appreciate how and why this compound has become so widely used in anesthesiology and is so valuable in the management of pain throughout much of the world

I see overall topping at 80k. That includes heroine.

The US lost 400,000 in WWII

110,000 died last year alone. How many is it too many? When does something get done to fix it? And who does that fixing?

That chart is not a running total FYI. It's number of deaths by year.


Are fentanyl overdose deaths rising in the US? (usafacts.org)

I don't think much of anything will get done in reality.  Government programs will of course throw money around.  This stuff is too easy to make and way to easy to smuggle and distribute.  And their market is "hooked" until they die.

It appears to be cutting down on heroin use anyway.  Not really good news.

we could try shutting down the southern border

which is where the majority comes from

I'd start there

It is widely reported it comes in through legal crossings, which makes sense to me.  It's a pain to bring weight across by foot elsewhere, and rather pointless, as it's not going to be detected by BP in a car anyway one time in a hundred.  And I don't think it realistic to close the border entirely.

And I suspect if somehow we did, it'd  get here by boat or plane.

I stated I do not think it is practical nor realistic to shut the border down.  It's not going to happen, no matter who we elect President, any more than we'd ban Muslims from coming into the US.

There is so much money to be made on small quantities of this stuff it would find its way in by other means anyway.  How many containers are imported each day and how well are they checked for much of anything?