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Riffraft

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« Reply #22078 on: March 24, 2023, 03:56:54 PM »
power is bad obviously when it leads to corruption

many folks can't handle the power and are corrupted by it
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« Reply #22079 on: March 24, 2023, 04:04:46 PM »
Also seems like we have the AI to draw non-gerrymandered districts at this point.  The number of seats that are actually up for grabs is increasingly limited as both parties, when in power, seek to consolidate it by redrawing districts

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« Reply #22080 on: March 24, 2023, 04:08:41 PM »
I don't know if 4,000 is the right number, but 435 is way too low.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02384/

The UK has 1/5 the population of the US, yet there have been between 650 and 700 seats in the Commons over the last 200 years.
The parliamentary system, where everything just comes down to votes, and subsects have a voice, this makes more sense.  Just adding more seats to a two party system, I think only makes things worse.  You wind up with similar divisions, but with compromise nearly impossible.

Now if you want to discuss a parliamentary voting system...I'm all ears.  Might make more sense than a two party system where one party is all about big government, except when they don't, and the other is all about small government, until they need some votes

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« Reply #22081 on: March 24, 2023, 04:13:19 PM »
adding or subtracting from the numbers or limiting terms from those numbers does nothing as long as all of them are going to vote straight party line

maybe a 3rd party could be the force that swags things one way or another to get things done?

neither of the 2 parties wants THAT! for shit's sake!!!

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« Reply #22082 on: March 24, 2023, 04:15:30 PM »
Afroman sued by law enforcement officers who raided his home

Afroman has promised to countersue ‘for the undeniable damage this had on my clients, family, career and property.’

https://www.fox19.com/2023/03/22/afroman-sued-by-law-enforcment-officers-who-raided-his-home/

ADAMS COUNTY, Ohio (WXIX) - Seven members of the Adams County Sheriff’s Office who raided Joseph Foreman’s home last year are now suing him claiming, among other things, that he invaded their privacy.

Four deputies, two sergeants and a detective are claiming Foreman (a.k.a. “Afroman”) took footage of their faces obtained during the raid and used it in music videos and social media posts without their consent, a misdemeanor violation under Ohio Revised Code.

They’re also suing on civil grounds, saying Foreman’s use of their faces (i.e. personas) in the videos and social media posts resulted in their “emotional distress, embarrassment, ridicule, loss of reputation and humiliation.”

The plaintiffs say they’re entitled to all of Foreman’s profits from his use of their personas. That includes, according to the complaint, proceeds from the songs, music videos and live event tickets as well as the promotion of Foreman’s “Afroman” brand, under which he sells beer, marijuana, t-shirts and other merchandise.


Sheriff’s deputies acted on a warrant claiming probable cause existed that drugs and drug paraphernalia would be found on Foreman’s property and that trafficking and kidnapping had taken place there.

“They come up here with AR-15, traumatize my kids, destroyed my property, kick in my door, rip up and destroy my camera system,” he said in August.

The suspicions turned out to be unfounded. The Adams County Prosecutor’s Office said the raid failed to turn up probative criminal evidence, according to attorney Anna Castellini. No charges were ever filed.
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« Reply #22083 on: March 24, 2023, 04:24:21 PM »
adding or subtracting from the numbers or limiting terms from those numbers does nothing as long as all of them are going to vote straight party line

maybe a 3rd party could be the force that swags things one way or another to get things done?

neither of the 2 parties wants THAT! for shit's sake!!!


And that's the problem.  I hate voting straight party, but the platforms have become so nationalized, that why wouldn't you?  Every candidate within a party is exactly the same.  Hell, the parties want to know where a candidate satands on abortion before allowing them to run on the county comptroller ticket

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« Reply #22084 on: March 24, 2023, 04:27:09 PM »
yup, and now you may have to cross a state line to have an abortion

gee whiz, Wally

what a big deal
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« Reply #22085 on: March 24, 2023, 04:47:28 PM »
yup, and now you may have to cross a state line to have an abortion

gee whiz, Wally

what a big deal
Depends on the state and how close is the nearest border.  In some states that's a bigger deal than others...

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« Reply #22086 on: March 24, 2023, 04:55:23 PM »
How can you honesty believe this????????????
Do you think your party wants to good for America and the other party doesnt?  

It's fine to feel that way if you do.

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« Reply #22087 on: March 24, 2023, 05:31:07 PM »
And that's the problem.  I hate voting straight party, but the platforms have become so nationalized, that why wouldn't you?  Every candidate within a party is exactly the same.  Hell, the parties want to know where a candidate satands on abortion before allowing them to run on the county comptroller ticket
A lot of people claim to vote for person, not for party. I actually believe a VERY small minority of those who make that claim. 

But in our system, it's absolutely RATIONAL to vote for party, not person. Because while you may theoretically have a direct representative who is in Washington to represent *YOUR* district, the truth is that once they are elected, they are beholden to the party and will vote in lock step [mostly, a few rare exceptions] with the party. 

I.e. it's absolutely rational to vote for an absolutely despicable human being with your party's letter behind their name, than an honorable upstanding person with integrity with the other party's letter behind their name. Because the former is more likely to lead to policies you like than the latter. 

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« Reply #22088 on: March 24, 2023, 06:31:27 PM »
I have a rule to help me chose which local candidate to vote for

this for local folks like judges etc

I generally vote rep unless the candidate has a nick name as part of their name

like Harold "Butch" Willis for example

I never vote for anyone with a nick name on the ballot
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« Reply #22089 on: March 24, 2023, 07:00:51 PM »
A lot of people claim to vote for person, not for party. I actually believe a VERY small minority of those who make that claim.

But in our system, it's absolutely RATIONAL to vote for party, not person. Because while you may theoretically have a direct representative who is in Washington to represent *YOUR* district, the truth is that once they are elected, they are beholden to the party and will vote in lock step [mostly, a few rare exceptions] with the party.

I.e. it's absolutely rational to vote for an absolutely despicable human being with your party's letter behind their name, than an honorable upstanding person with integrity with the other party's letter behind their name. Because the former is more likely to lead to policies you like than the latter.
yes, but it wasn't like this a decade or two ago (well maybe 30 years ago, I'm old)
you could vote for a person and that person would vote their mind on issues and vote for what they actually believed in. Instead of merely voting along the party line as they are instructed by the party leaders.

this has trickled down to the individual voter that has to pick one of the two parties.
this conflicts individuals

some people are pro choice and pro gun
some people are anti marijuana and anti public health insurance

but they have no one to vote for
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« Reply #22090 on: March 24, 2023, 08:18:35 PM »
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« Reply #22091 on: March 24, 2023, 08:38:03 PM »
A lot of people claim to vote for person, not for party. I actually believe a VERY small minority of those who make that claim.

But in our system, it's absolutely RATIONAL to vote for party, not person. Because while you may theoretically have a direct representative who is in Washington to represent *YOUR* district, the truth is that once they are elected, they are beholden to the party and will vote in lock step [mostly, a few rare exceptions] with the party.

I.e. it's absolutely rational to vote for an absolutely despicable human being with your party's letter behind their name, than an honorable upstanding person with integrity with the other party's letter behind their name. Because the former is more likely to lead to policies you like than the latter.
As I said, they are beholden to the party, on no matter how stupid a reason, before the election.  Hell, you better toe the party line on a border wall before you run for county treasurer

 

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