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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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FearlessF

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46606 on: July 09, 2025, 07:45:22 AM »
OK, you can envision a simple tax code, you just can't envision making it happen
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46607 on: July 09, 2025, 07:59:37 AM »
Yeah, I think it would be massively disruptive to go to no deductions.  Is it possible over time?  Maybe.  Will it ever happen?  Nope.

The tax code is how Congress gets "us" to do stuff they want us to do, same with corporations.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46608 on: July 09, 2025, 08:21:17 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 08, 2025, 05:49:01 PM
a flatter simpler tax like a large sales tax

buy a fancy automobile, a big ass boat, a huge house on 45 acres, a steak dinner & drinks at the most fancy place in the city, tickets to the symphony or the opera
heck, buy a $9000 humidor and fill it with $40 cigars, or fill your wine cellar with the good stuff

Pay the tax
This too would be rightly viewed as regressive because the poor obviously spend a MUCH larger percentage of their income on necessities.  
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46609 on: July 09, 2025, 08:30:33 AM »
well, some things like food do not have sales tax
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46610 on: July 09, 2025, 08:33:47 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 09, 2025, 08:30:33 AM
well, some things like food do not have sales tax
Depends on what state you're in.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46611 on: July 09, 2025, 08:39:07 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 09, 2025, 08:30:33 AM
well, some things like food do not have sales tax
Well . . .
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 09, 2025, 08:33:47 AM
Depends on what state you're in.
And this is where the complications start creeping back in.  

In Ohio unprepared foods (think groceries) do NOT have sales tax but prepared foods (think restaurant) DO have sales tax.  Then there end up needing to be all kinds of regulations on what constitutes prepared vs unprepared.  
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46612 on: July 09, 2025, 08:54:32 AM »
Yep. Groceries are exempt here, but restaurants tax 6% on the bill.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46613 on: July 09, 2025, 08:56:09 AM »
encouraging folks to eat groceries and not McDonalds is good
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46614 on: July 09, 2025, 09:07:17 AM »
My sales tax here is 8.9%, it's 6% on groceries.

State income tax is a bit over 5% and flat, everyone pays the same rate.  

This is one reason we go to the Costco up in Cobb county.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46615 on: July 09, 2025, 09:22:40 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 09, 2025, 08:56:09 AM
encouraging folks to eat groceries and not McDonalds is good
I've tried that but when get home I find some wise acre swapped them out for a 12pk
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46616 on: July 09, 2025, 09:25:05 AM »
sin tax on beer and cigarettes - maybe there should be a sin tax on fast food and other poor choices, like lotto tickets
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46617 on: July 09, 2025, 09:28:43 AM »
Shit the Ohio Lottery already takes 30% off the top
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46618 on: July 09, 2025, 09:50:35 AM »
Looks like Sleepy the autopen should have pardoned Comey, Brennan and Clapper. 

Oops.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46619 on: July 09, 2025, 09:53:22 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 09, 2025, 09:25:05 AM
sin tax on beer and cigarettes - maybe there should be a sin tax on fast food and other poor choices, like lotto tickets
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 09, 2025, 09:28:43 AM
Shit the Ohio Lottery already takes 30% off the top
The lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math.  
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