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Reading comprehension is your friend. As is Google. Never once said any one company made this. It was combined profits from a handful- maybe 4-5 druggy cartels.

Pfizer, Moderna, BioNTech, and maybe it was 1 or 2 other of the druggy majors made just shy of $100 billion in PROFITS from their bullshit COVID drugs in 2021 & 2022. It was $90 something billion. In PROFIT. Combined.

No they didn’t.  At all not even close.  

Musk seems to fit the description of "greatest human being of all time" and also "greatest slezeball of all time" at the same time. 

I'm confident in saying he's neither of those things, but you do raise an important point.

We shouldn't forget the nuance, and that people/issues don't have to be one simple thing.  You can largely agree or disagree with someone, but probably should not make the mistake of trying to fit everything they do in that singular category.  

To some here's doubtless chagrin, I've agreed with most of what the new president has done, and the DOGE team as well.  I don't feel the need to defend them on everything, as they've also said or done a few things they should be rightfully criticized for (at least in my view of things).  

That's one of my problems with a lot of legacy media.  They spend so much time on the unhinged, obvious character assassination attempts that they're forsaking their job not only of reporting the news, but they're not informing the public of some legitimate things people might want to know about, and be concerned about.  After they cry wolf so many times, they create a lot of people who put it on autopilot and refuse to believe anything negative about the administration, even when it has legs or is based on common sense.

I suppose folks can simply make up figures from nothing, or social media, and post them, without ANY actual substance.

I don't have a dog in this fight but you could (and should) ask him to cite his source.  That's a fair request in a debate among reasonable people.

"google the internet" is not citing a source, for reference.

it's sometimes assumed that corporations hide revenue to avoid paying taxes and for other obvious reasons

the man is the greatest example in modern times of having FUCK YOU money. I actually quite enjoy him calling people peasants and retards on twitter. those people are beneath him- the great lie is that everyone is created equal- we are not- and he has every right to remind them of that on the platform that he spent $45 billion to buy.

I honestly really am just enjoying the show. It's great entertainment. And it's free.

Depending on how you mean that, I may vehemently disagree.  The clue would be in how intentional the word "created" was used.

If you mean we are not all equal in terms of status, means, knowledge, and influence, that is obviously true.  And also fine, despite Marx's repeated moans from the grave. 

If you mean we are not all created equal in terms of inherent worth, dignity, and intrinsic value, then that flat contradicts the opening lines of the Declaration of Independence, and the Judeo-Christian values it was in-part rooted in. 

My confusion is, I don't know why you'd use the word "created" if you didn't mean the second one. 

According to the first paradigm, Elon can do things and say things that have broader reach and consequences than a lot of other people.

By the second paradigm, Elon is "worth" no more than any other member of the human race, and while he lives in a country where he has the right to call people whatever names and intimate that they are somehow beneath him in non-monetary worth, he is wrong, and he shouldn't do it. 

The only reason I'm straining at this gnat is because this little puddle of an idea has had disastrous consequences in history when grown to the size of a river.  I can't let comments about people having less worth go by without asking for clarification, and push back if answer is the wrong one.  I think, reading it in context, you mean the first one....maybe something along the lines of "It's erroneous to think just because we're created equal that our opinions or knowledge of a situation is equal."  If so, that's fair.  Like I say, I just want to be sure, because if you mean something else then I feel some kind of moral obligation to put forth a counterargument. 

I don't have a dog in this fight but you could (and should) ask him to cite his source.  That's a fair request in a debate among reasonable people.

"google the internet" is not citing a source, for reference.

it's a very easy thing to look up. Pfizer alone made $35 billion in profits from their bullshit COVID drugs in 2021 & 2022. never mind that Pfizer got handouts from the US government and governments all across Europe in the form of fully guaranteed contracts for COVID drugs to the tune of billions of dollars and sold 99% of all it's COVID drug supply to rich developed nations- and just 1% to COVAX- a joint venture by the WHO and some other NGO's/charities to distribute COVID vaccines to poor nations. never mind the fact even after Pfizer made a ransom in profits from it's bullshit COVID drug it refused to share it's bullshit COVID drug with the WHO's COVID hub in Africa- which was set up with the express purpose of helping poor countries make generics and build up their vaccine capacity. never mind the fact that Pfizer developed an mRNA drug off the back of billions of dollars in public investment by both the US and German gov'ts. 

The other drug companies made shitloads as well. Moderna made $20 billion. In profits. Pfizer & Moderna alone = $55 billion. now do the others. there's a multi-national corporate watch dog based out of Amsterdam. they did a report on this a few years back. I read it. a few years back. 

Don't spend that $5,000 DOGE dividend just yet.
  The NY Times examined that "wall of receipts" supposedly proving the $55 billion in savings dug up by Musk and his minions. Turns out the math was a little iffy.
    Of course, the NYT is "fake news" so we can go on believing whatever Karoline Leavitt says in the WH briefing room.
    Key takeaway:
  But the math ... is marred with accounting errors, incorrect assumptions, outdated data and other mistakes, according to a New York Times analysis of all the contracts listed. While the DOGE team has surely cut some number of billions of dollars, its slapdash accounting adds to a pattern of recklessness by the group, which has recently gained access to sensitive government payment systems.

I don't know what to believe at this point.  IF all this really turns out to be much ado about very little, well, it won't look good for DJT.