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Lol I'm not the one trying to claim crime is up then passing it off with statistics from two years ago. What a sham.

Lol I'm not the one trying to claim crime is up then passing it off with statistics from two years ago. What a sham.

The sham is revising them two years later. It will happen again.

The data says crime is up. 

Nope. 

Crime goes up when more people are financially desperate, right?  Don't give me stock market health BS, when real people struggle to pay for things, they then commit crimes to acquire those same things, yes?  Or money for things.

Can we maybe all agree the inflation peak caused much of this criminal activity?  
Can we also acknowledge inflation has been down-down-down for over a year?

This 'crime is up'-'crime is down'- 'fire BAD!' stuff isn't really about the problem, is it?  The goal is to create an environment in which fewer people feel the need to commit crimes, which includes a healthy economy for the lower class.
Also, it doesn't help that companies liked the 'new normal' of higher prices and haven't and likely won't ever bring prices back down as far as they comfortably could.
Also, it doesn't' help that the past 5 years have probably been the worst time to join a police force, for various reasons.

Whether crime is up or down, we could just dwell on the causes behind it, yes?

Crime goes up when more people are financially desperate, right?  Don't give me stock market health BS, when real people struggle to pay for things, they then commit crimes to acquire those same things, yes?  Or money for things.

Can we maybe all agree the inflation peak caused much of this criminal activity? 
Can we also acknowledge inflation has been down-down-down for over a year?

This 'crime is up'-'crime is down'- 'fire BAD!' stuff isn't really about the problem, is it?  The goal is to create an environment in which fewer people feel the need to commit crimes, which includes a healthy economy for the lower class.
Also, it doesn't help that companies liked the 'new normal' of higher prices and haven't and likely won't ever bring prices back down as far as they comfortably could.
Also, it doesn't' help that the past 5 years have probably been the worst time to join a police force, for various reasons.

Whether crime is up or down, we could just dwell on the causes behind it, yes?

To a very high degree I think this is on the money. 

And yes- inflation has cooled nicely.  The cycle typically sees unemployment rise post inflation unfortunately.  For the consumers a lot of the prices of goods/services have stabilized ( which is GOOD), but they are still at much higher prices than they were not long ago. It takes a while for wages to catch back up.

And is there ANY correlation between crime and levels of prosecution, and punishment levels, and resources of law enforcement? I am not answering that question but rather saying it needs to be asked. 

Crime goes up when more people are financially desperate, right?  Don't give me stock market health BS, when real people struggle to pay for things, they then commit crimes to acquire those same things, yes?  Or money for things.

Can we maybe all agree the inflation peak caused much of this criminal activity? 

To a very high degree I think this is on the money. 

And yes- inflation has cooled nicely.  The cycle typically sees unemployment rise post inflation unfortunately.  For the consumers a lot of the prices of goods/services have stabilized ( which is GOOD), but they are still at much higher prices than they were not long ago. It takes a while for wages to catch back up.

well, it stands to reason (for me) that if you don't enforce "smash & grab", there's going to be more "smash & grab"

I think economics is a factor. As is enforcement. Although per Fearless and the last point, I'm not sure that "smash & grab" gets put into the category of violent crime, even with the smash involved. I believe that's more along the lines of person on person crime rather than person on property crime...

However I don't think we should limit this to only one factor. There's also been a tremendous strain on mental health since the start of the pandemic. Isolation, depression, substance abuse. I think a general loss of "community" came with that. More of an "every man for himself" mentality that is growing. 

And social media breaking our brains. And politics being the most polarized it's probably been in my lifetime; further leading to that breakdown of community because you start viewing anyone who isn't lockstep with you politically as "the other". 

Which is to say that I agree with OAM that economics is a factor, but I don't necessarily believe that improving economic conditions will necessarily be a complete solution. I think there's more going on. 

One theory about the dramatic drop in violent crime from 1992 on was the conversion to unleaded fuel.  It's an interesting hypothesis.

As for money shortages driving crime, that could be the case for theft, but not really for violent crimes one would think, except as it is related to drug related criminal activity.  Turf wars and whatnot.

I did notice a period in 2019 where the local police basically disappeared.  I'd see a car parked in the park doing nothing, it was a Blue Out, for a while.  They are back fortunately, it didn't last overly long.